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Post by kevinitaly on Dec 30, 2005 7:55:42 GMT -6
Obviously you read the old and rotten reasons of the Antis in this blog, but discussing is good anyway, so we can refute them one more time. Capital punishment IS moral
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Post by sweethonesty on Dec 30, 2005 20:12:18 GMT -6
WOOHOO, I like that!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2005 1:40:33 GMT -6
Okay, I ventured into the fever swamps (thanks be to showers). Good debate? -- As opposed to what, a murder accomodating liberal? -- A stream-of-consciousness run-on sentence which starts off with a complete falsehood. Yet locking up such people with LWOP is viewed with disdain. Look at how corrections officers are derided by many antis. Don't kill 'em, but we won't help watch 'em, either. And forget money to build more fascist prisons. Besides, the death penalty's not all about vengeance, as we know. Only the superficial think that. There is a social contract that was pretty much ripped to shreds by the murderer. Sorry, but I stopped here. The moral equivalence was suffocating. Well, I recognize the first sentence as mine, but not the rest, so these must be comments to my bit on Tookie? And you would be "doorguy"? Then let's not cherry-pick, shall we? Doorguy started the comments: Thanks for sharing your ill health and tranked visions, hope you feel better for it, I for one feel better for having "listened," as it were, wish you wouldn't watch so much TV. by doorguy on Thu Dec 08, 2005 at 02:57:42 AM EST Actually, it's only when I'm hospitalized that I watch TV so much. But the visions aren't tranked; it's all very real, no drugs required. by moltar on Thu Dec 08, 2005 at 03:03:35 AM EST This is no tranked out Moltar... Moltar has felt this ever since I have blogged with Moltar, going on two years now, so don't be so dismissive of what are obviously deeply held beliefs. Agree or disagree, but Moltar's beliefs are fact based and fact-driven emotions and deserve respect. by jibsail on Thu Dec 08, 2005 at 03:13:28 AM EST pfffft by doorguy on Thu Dec 08, 2005 at 03:15:47 AM EST must be one of those compassionate conservatives I heard about. by moltar on Thu Dec 08, 2005 at 03:25:46 AM EST ------- and that would end my interaction with doorguy. It's pretty apparent that I took doorguy at his word when he wished me well; I wasn't expecting sarcasm and didn't see it. If doorguy had read more than the first sentence, he would see that I was 100% pro-DP, especially in the case of "Tookie." Anyone can read it: www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/8/25127/2565, and all the comments are at the end forever and ever. My question would be, why is doorguy making such an ass of himself by starting out attacking me? What is the freakin point? And if YOU are doorguy, I'll be glad to talk offlist. As for any comments not signed moltar: they're not mine; I don't control what gets posted; I debate anyone; there a lot of antis out there, and they know a good blog; I don't care what you think about dkos or liberals in general. To me, Liberalism stands for freedom. It was Liberals and Radicals who died to found this country, and Conservatives who ran to Canada or Mother England, or fought against us. p.s. The comment "I am sorry, I think vengeance is a pathetic vanity" was attacked by both you and me. I don't fit in your box, pal. Don't try to push me in.
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Post by Donnie on Dec 31, 2005 10:14:42 GMT -6
[My question would be, why is doorguy making such an ass of himself by starting out attacking me? He was already an ass before he attacked you. His attack was merely the natural expression of one of the types of people who today claim that they are "liberals". He is an ass, therefore he writes as an ass. Such folks are not liberals in any sense of the true meaning of the word. But since most real liberals do not stand up to these odious psuedo-liberals, many people accept their shallow and hateful commentary as being representative of liberal philosophy. I first saw these psuedo-liberals begin to emerge in about 1973 when I was immersed in the anti-war movement. They were more cautious then, but the cancer has grown. He had no point, it was just another example of gratuitous arrogant self-aggrandizement at the expense of someone else. It was his way of entertaining himself, similar to a bully, only mental (not intellectual) instead of physical.
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Post by blakely on Dec 31, 2005 11:09:00 GMT -6
Moltar: Rickz is not doorguy.
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Post by RickZ on Dec 31, 2005 11:20:57 GMT -6
Moltar: Rickz is not doorguy. True. And I've never been a doorman either, although I do hold doors open for women, risking indignant glances and/or comments from feminists.
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Post by sweethonesty on Dec 31, 2005 13:48:22 GMT -6
I thought Carlton was the DoorMan? ;D
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Post by Grey on Dec 31, 2005 14:05:35 GMT -6
I thought Carlton was the DoorMan? ;D Carlton as in Fresh Prince of Bellair?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2006 1:44:41 GMT -6
Well, then, I can send doorguy a zero to drop his karma. But to avoid further staining of less than Liberal footwear, I have placed copies of the infamous Took, Took, Tookie Goodbye and From a Homicide Survivor at savageuranus.blogspot.com/. Now you can avoid contamination - except, of course, from me.
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Post by Donnie on Jan 10, 2006 20:51:52 GMT -6
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Post by blakely on Jan 27, 2006 13:09:41 GMT -6
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Post by myamber20 on Jan 27, 2006 15:35:40 GMT -6
I thought Carlton was the DoorMan? ;D Oh...thats funny!!! "tHIS IS CARLTON YOUR DOORMAN" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Rhoda was a good show!!!
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Post by myamber20 on Jan 27, 2006 15:36:35 GMT -6
I thought Carlton was the DoorMan? ;D Carlton as in Fresh Prince of Bellair? No, Carlton was the doorman in a show called "Rhoda"
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Post by happygrandmab on Jan 27, 2006 16:00:07 GMT -6
rhoda was hysterical ;D i miss that show
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Post by sweethonesty on Jan 27, 2006 19:52:59 GMT -6
Carlton as in Fresh Prince of Bellair? No, Carlton was the doorman in a show called "Rhoda" I think I'll name my next dog, Carlton ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 14:41:17 GMT -6
While the DP is not my main topic of discussion on my blog --- I do write about most Texas death row executions (from a very PRO stance, of course). This link is to all posts tagged in the Death Penalty category: urbangrounds.com/category/death-penalty/
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Post by blakely on Jan 31, 2006 14:45:07 GMT -6
While the DP is not my main topic of discussion on my blog --- I do write about most Texas death row executions (from a very PRO stance, of course). This link is to all posts tagged in the Death Penalty category: urbangrounds.com/category/death-penalty/Urbangrounds has the distinction of often having family members of the victims commenting and some comments from really really crazy antis. lol! Give them hell, Robbie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 14:57:29 GMT -6
What's crazy is when family members or friends of the death row inmate come in and make comments apologizing for and justifying the murders. And then a family member of the victim will come in right behind them and set them straight.
It can get quite heated. I've even been fortunate enough to have death threats (from the brother of Charles Dean Hood, who is awaiting execution on Texas Death Row) and threatened law suites regarding my rights to write about Death Row Inmate groupies (and to show their faces).
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Post by Dea on Jan 31, 2006 16:22:30 GMT -6
Awesome blog. I enjoy all your topics, really interesting stuff. That is too funny about the groupies. LOL They threaten legal action at the drop of a hat, just as a rule.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jan 31, 2006 16:34:39 GMT -6
Awesome blog. I enjoy all your topics, really interesting stuff. That is too funny about the groupies. LOL They threaten legal action at the drop of a hat, just as a rule. You mean, like Scientologists?
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Post by Dea on Jan 31, 2006 18:17:20 GMT -6
Awesome blog. I enjoy all your topics, really interesting stuff. That is too funny about the groupies. LOL They threaten legal action at the drop of a hat, just as a rule. You mean, like Scientologists? LOL They are both about the same actually, now that you mention it.
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Post by RickZ on Mar 4, 2006 8:20:03 GMT -6
A translated German blog on the hanging of a 16-year-old Iranian girl for having premarital sex. (The original from Henryk Broder; thanks Currywurst!) medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2004/09/die_sddeutsche_.html"If some US court had sentenced a 16-year-old murderer to death, German newspapers would be beside themselves with indignation, Amnesty International would protest and Claudia Roth, the Federal Commissioner for Human Rights, would cancel her Weight Watchers meeting to travel personally to the USA to demand an appeal of the verdict. (...) Sometimes the SZ is worth reading. Where else is such a calm, balanced, and understanding explanation of the cultural basis for a murder? A commentary on livestock transport in India would have been written with more passion. However, in this case it is important to respect the cultural differences and to avoid the appearance of haughtiness. It tells us not only how the mullahs think, but also how the liberals tick as they sip their lattes and get excited about Guantanamo. (...) As an afterthough, we learn that the the official age of marriage 'after delicate negotiations between reformers and conservatives, was raised from 9 to 10 years,' also a step in the direction of more human rights and nearly a feminist revolution. One has to realize that the term 'official age of marriage' is merely a cheerful description of what the Americans call 'fuckability'. Or, to put it in terms that everyone who has a 'Heart for Children' and donates to UNICEF can understand: in Iran there seems to be two types of child fuckers. The traditionalists want to start with the 9-year-olds, while the reformers are not in such a hurry and prefer the riper 10-year-olds. Wine lovers also know that older vintages can taste better. If a girl can be *screwed* at 10, she can be hanged at 16; then she is at least spared the knowledge that her husband has left her for a younger girl. And if the miniumum age for executions is raised to 18 years, then the European-Iranian human rights dialog will really have been successful. That's what the SZ is trying say between the lines, subtly, unobtrusively, and considerately. We only have to continue this line of thinking a little: Soon the terrorists will no longer behead their hostages with dull kitchen knives, but will use solid axes with blades of Solinger stainless steel for their 'excections'. Human rights are for everyone!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2006 15:11:47 GMT -6
I (of SwedishBlonde fame) brought the very same case up here a long time ago, but it didn't arouse much interest. Indeed, Macklin even expressed his approval. With the current quagmire in Iraq and Condi Rice seeking to negotiate, the mad mullahs in Tehran are probably more powerful than ever, and can hang as many teenage girls and homosexuals as they like, more or less with impunity. A translated German blog on the hanging of a 16-year-old Iranian girl for having premarital sex. (The original from Henryk Broder; thanks Currywurst!) medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2004/09/die_sddeutsche_.html"If some US court had sentenced a 16-year-old murderer to death, German newspapers would be beside themselves with indignation, Amnesty International would protest and Claudia Roth, the Federal Commissioner for Human Rights, would cancel her Weight Watchers meeting to travel personally to the USA to demand an appeal of the verdict. (...) Sometimes the SZ is worth reading. Where else is such a calm, balanced, and understanding explanation of the cultural basis for a murder? A commentary on livestock transport in India would have been written with more passion. However, in this case it is important to respect the cultural differences and to avoid the appearance of haughtiness. It tells us not only how the mullahs think, but also how the liberals tick as they sip their lattes and get excited about Guantanamo. (...) As an afterthough, we learn that the the official age of marriage 'after delicate negotiations between reformers and conservatives, was raised from 9 to 10 years,' also a step in the direction of more human rights and nearly a feminist revolution. One has to realize that the term 'official age of marriage' is merely a cheerful description of what the Americans call '*deleted*ability'. Or, to put it in terms that everyone who has a 'Heart for Children' and donates to UNICEF can understand: in Iran there seems to be two types of child *deleted*ers. The traditionalists want to start with the 9-year-olds, while the reformers are not in such a hurry and prefer the riper 10-year-olds. Wine lovers also know that older vintages can taste better. If a girl can be *deleted*ed at 10, she can be hanged at 16; then she is at least spared the knowledge that her husband has left her for a younger girl. And if the miniumum age for executions is raised to 18 years, then the European-Iranian human rights dialog will really have been successful. That's what the SZ is trying say between the lines, subtly, unobtrusively, and considerately. We only have to continue this line of thinking a little: Soon the terrorists will no longer behead their hostages with dull kitchen knives, but will use solid axes with blades of Solinger stainless steel for their 'excections'. Human rights are for everyone!"
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Post by xnavygrrl74 on Apr 1, 2006 11:32:42 GMT -6
Hi Charlene, My friend Matthew has a site on livejournal that is pro death penalty. I will get the name of it for you. He has become a dear friend and has been involved with victims for about 10 years. Melissa
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Post by Royd on Apr 15, 2006 3:32:19 GMT -6
It will now be only a matter of time when the phrase "any last words" will be replaced with "do you wish to make a last blogg".
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Post by RFisher on Apr 27, 2006 23:30:38 GMT -6
ROTFLMAO, that was great Royd !!
BTW, historical curiousity compells me to inquire about the costume you have on in your picture.
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Post by RFisher on May 1, 2006 12:09:50 GMT -6
Might that be the costume of one who sits in the east?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2006 5:35:15 GMT -6
A Singaporean blogger's foray into the Nguyen execution. It is interesting on two points: 1) The Asian concept of saving face; 2) The fact that the family and death penalty opponents, by their being outspoken, assuredly removed any chance for the Government of Singapore to save face, and with it any chance to commute Nguyen's sentence. xenoboysg.blogspot.com/2005/11/volte-face-in-singapore-politics-nay.htmlWednesday, November 30, 2005 I have deliberately refrained from commenting on the death penalty for Nguyen until today. Holding out some misplaced hope that this entry will be unnecessary. But it’s a couple of hours before Nguyen hangs. And it is necessary now to speak. What I say will be brutally realistic. Mistakes were made. No blame is meant. This is an analysis on taking on the Singapore political legal system. And it all boils down to Face. It was all about Face. Whatever fancy terms political scientists or politicians can coin, Game Theory, Great Man theories, brinksmanship politics, realism, post structuralism, Asian values, sovereignty, National Interest, international law etc, when we analyse this Nguyen affair, it was all about Face. No disrespect to Rodan, political activists, lawyers, journalists and the politicians both Singaporean and Aussie, who have all come out with the same tropes to appeal and defend their respective positions in this affair. It was all about Face. Face is not a topic covered in textbooks. Face underlies a lot of political decisions West or East. But it is perhaps only in the latter where Face is an art form. Coded by Confucius. (The posting continues.) Rick you hit the nail right on the head with that post. That was exactly what it was all about.
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Post by Charlene on Jun 27, 2006 12:17:00 GMT -6
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