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Post by das on Jun 28, 2003 5:31:13 GMT -6
Though not truly a DP case, I wonder what you folks think about the 50 year sentence just handed down in the Mallard case. www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-06-27-windshield-sentence_x.htmFor those of you overseas who haven't followed this case, a woman hit a homeless man with her car while driving home at 3AM. She'd been partying on drugs and booze. The guy went through her windshield head first and his body lodged in her windshield. He was alive and in pain. Instead of driving to the hospital or the police station, she drove home, parked the car in the garage, and left the guy in the windshield where he bled to death. She was convicted of murder and got a 50 year sentence.  |
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Post by Charlene on Jun 28, 2003 6:04:23 GMT -6
What made this case a murder case instead of a manslaughter case is what she did from the moment after impact on. Continuing to drive to her home, with someone stuck halfway through her windshield, driving into the garage so it would not be seen, purposefully leaving him to die, talking to him as he begs her to get help - all of these things are about as cold as you can get this side of setting out with murder on your mind. I simply don't understand how someone, particularly someone who, as a profession, cares for others, could behave in such a selfish, cold-blooded manner.  I believe her tears are for herself, rather than poor Mr. Biggs. |
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Post by Darren Thomas on Jun 28, 2003 9:24:30 GMT -6
What made this case a murder case instead of a manslaughter case is what she did from the moment after impact on. Continuing to drive to her home, with someone stuck halfway through her windshield, driving into the garage so it would not be seen, purposefully leaving him to die, talking to him as he begs her to get help - all of these things are about as cold as you can get this side of setting out with murder on your mind. I simply don't understand how someone, particularly someone who, as a profession, cares for others, could behave in such a selfish, cold-blooded manner. I believe her tears are for herself, rather than poor Mr. Biggs. What she will never tell,nor what you will ever hear is"all she wanted was HONKY KILL"think about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2003 11:02:00 GMT -6
according to certain Scientific Principles, some drugs like Ecstasy could temporarily switch some of the trillions of trillions of neuron connections in the brain, such that a Man stuck on a windsheild might appear to be a Insect ......or vice-versa.....its Science, NOT Legal Law......
so perhaps she cold be telling the truth......
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Post by Donnie on Jun 28, 2003 16:13:41 GMT -6
according to certain Scientific Principles, some drugs like Ecstasy could temporarily switch some of the trillions of trillions of neuron connections in the brain, such that a Man stuck on a windsheild might appear to be a Insect ......or vice-versa.....its Science, NOT Legal Law...... so perhaps she cold be telling the truth...... What truth was she telling? How do you think we know that she talked with him? He was dead before she took him out of her garage and put him in a nearby park. Put your powerful scientific reasoning to work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2003 20:03:55 GMT -6
Maybe someone can correct me, but as I understand it, parole is a possibility after a little over half the sentence. That is why Texas Dentist Clara Harris will be eligible for parole after ten years of her 20 year sentence for running over her philandering husband.
If Mallard had been sentenced to "life" in prison, she would have had to spend a minimum of 40 years before parole (as will child killer Andrea Yates). As it is, Mallard (27 yrs old I believe) will be on the street in her early 50's.
Not an easy sentence, but not nearly as harsh as advertised.
For the record, I am a firm believer in "truth in sentencing". Don't pass sentences the State has no intention of enforcing.
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Post by Charlene on Jun 28, 2003 20:55:16 GMT -6
Maybe someone can correct me, but as I understand it, parole is a possibility after a little over half the sentence. That is why Texas Dentist Clara Harris will be eligible for parole after ten years of her 20 year sentence for running over her philandering husband. If Mallard had been sentenced to "life" in prison, she would have had to spend a minimum of 40 years before parole (as will child killer Andrea Yates). As it is, Mallard (27 yrs old I believe) will be on the street in her early 50's. Hi TRex. In the Yates case, it is 40 years before parole eligibility because it was capital murder. In the Mallard case, I believe that if she had received a life sentence, she would have been parole eligible after about 30 years, since 60 years is considered to be a "life" sentence in Texas. With a fifty year sentence, she will be parole eligible in 25 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2003 21:11:25 GMT -6
some of thepowerful hallucinogenic drugs might create an artificial illusion of the senses, so that the person might do things without their even being aware or appear to be totally diffrerent from reality........like sleep-walking
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Post by matthew not logged in on Jun 28, 2003 21:36:38 GMT -6
I would also like to add that the brains of Women are highly unstable and extremely dominant in the Artistic regions of the Cerebral Cortex (due to alterations by unknown forces long ago)........thats why they are far more prone than Men to seeing Ghostly sightings, Saintly visitations, Vampire attacks, Alien abductions.....and other miscellaneous "supernatural" phenomena..........
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Post by Darren Thomas on Jun 29, 2003 10:34:03 GMT -6
I would also like to add that the brains of Women are highly unstable and extremely dominant in the Artistic regions of the Cerebral Cortex (due to alterations by unknown forces long ago)........thats why they are far more prone than Men to seeing Ghostly sightings, Saintly visitations, Vampire attacks, Alien abductions.....and other miscellaneous "supernatural" phenomena.......... That is because women are more closely entuned to nature then men are. |
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Post by matthew not logged in on Jun 29, 2003 10:48:02 GMT -6
thats the most %$&**^%$% thing I have ever heard !
so you mean that nature is an Artist.......not a Scientist ?!!
so does the Sun shine by Art, Planets revolve by Movies, do we see Female Animals doing strip-acts and pornography, does plants photosysntheisis occurs through films....... ..%^%#$#&* !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2003 13:42:48 GMT -6
thats the most %$&**^%$% thing I have ever heard ! so you mean that nature is an Artist.......not a Scientist ?!! so does the Sun shine by Art, Planets revolve by Movies, do we see Female Animals doing strip-acts and pornography, does plants photosysntheisis occurs through films....... ..%^%#$#&* !!! Nature is both science and art. If you cannot see the artistry in the colors and symmetry of nature, there is nothing anyone can say to explain it to you. Some people have no sense of humor. Some people are tone deaf. Your problem is unique. You are incapable of seeing beauty. Many of the problems of the world can be triggered back to the influence of the arts. However, for 99% of the human beings on Earth, if there was no art, there would be no reason to get up in the morning. Maybe when you can accept that fact, you can accept that the woman who dumped you is not representative of all of the women on Earth. Art is life. |
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Post by matthew outside on Jun 30, 2003 11:04:47 GMT -6
nature is not man-made.........anything that is man-made and is not subject to the laws of science, is art..........thats why its is so dangerous if not watched and controlled very carefully.....
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Post by Donnie on Jul 2, 2003 20:39:43 GMT -6
some of thepowerful hallucinogenic drugs might create an artificial illusion of the senses, so that the person might do things without their even being aware or appear to be totally diffrerent from reality........like sleep-walking Why are you not answering the question? The babbling above has nothing to do with the Mallard case. There was no evidence provided that she had any illusions about what she had done or what was happening while her victim was dying. Any person who claims to be scientific would not make a statement without supporting evidence. What is the evidence that supports the premise that Mallard was "telling the truth" about something that would indicate that she did not know what she was doing and that it was very wrong? |
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Post by bueller007 on Jul 3, 2003 10:53:21 GMT -6
Why are you not answering the question? The babbling above has nothing to do with the Mallard case. There was no evidence provided that she had any illusions about what she had done or what was happening while her victim was dying. Any person who claims to be scientific would not make a statement without supporting evidence. What is the evidence that supports the premise that Mallard was "telling the truth" about something that would indicate that she did not know what she was doing and that it was very wrong? Indeed. Ecstasy is notorious for making one more emotionally suggestive and empathic to the feelings of others. Although alcohol dulls the effect, I really think that she knew right from wrong at this point, and that it was probably one of the most horrific things that she ever experienced. If she was even on E at the time, that is. Although I'm not well-versed on the case, it seems more likely that the drug usage excuse was a mere attempt to get her off the hook. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2003 11:08:21 GMT -6
Ectsasy + the fact it is a Female Brain (Artistic) = Bonkers !
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Post by bueller007 on Jul 5, 2003 12:10:28 GMT -6
Ectsasy + the fact it is a Female Brain (Artistic) = Bonkers ! Non sequitur. <flame> This is a "death penalty" website. If you want to bash women, I'm sure you can find a "bitter homosexual" or "I got dumped, so now I'm trying to convince myself that it doesn't matter because women aren't worth it anyway, and I've been looking for proof in the Bible (which was written at a time when women had no rights)" website somewhere. If you want to bash art, I'm sure you can find a "I tried to make it in the art world, but I got rejected" or a "My hypocritical and poorly thought-out hatred of art is an extension of my self-inflicted hatred of women" website somewhere. Be careful though. Your numerous Photoshop jobs, as well as your homemade 3D graphics, which are a form of art, might get you kicked out. Plus, you like country and reggae music, which is simply unacceptable to the true art-haters. </flame> I'm sorry for being so blunt, but you infuriate me, and your bitter, irrational attacks on women and art are quite transparent. |
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Post by Donnie on Jul 6, 2003 22:36:05 GMT -6
Ectsasy + the fact it is a Female Brain (Artistic) = Bonkers ! You still haven't answered the original question. Your only replies have been non-scientific babblings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2003 11:12:47 GMT -6
music in which Men sing usually do not involve divesting themselves of clothes (unlike the Women singers)
more yada...yada.....Artists are the largest mass murderers in History....not Scienists.....Nero, Caligula, Mao, Hitler etc.......
u know why there is crime, murder & the death penalty in the human species (unlike animals)..........because the Woman can be bough with material possesions.....
ps: the Earth was existing about 4.5 billion years or more before canada was discovered !!!
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The Foundation of our Being. The First Warning....the oldest and most potent Words of ALL, long before other Laws like The Ten Commandments - which itself was necessary because of the Loss of Innocence and Fall of Mankind..........."The Serpent was the most subtle of all Creatures that the Lord God had made, it said to the Woman........".
Over 9000 to 12000 thousand years ago, in the region of Mesopotamia now in between Iraq and India, there sprang up the First Civilizations. If you check all History textbooks, no one has been able to explain WHY civilization first occurred in this region........all the history textbooks say about the reason for the origin of civilization in the region of Mesopotamia as: "are yet to be explained satisfactorily". Many, many people have formed theories about this from Alien Spaceships landing there to Supernatural visitations in that region, which has still not been proved or disproved and is at best - one's guess is as good as anothers. Homonids or Human-like creatures first evolved in Africa in the remote valleys of Kenya over 2.5 million years ago. These were not Homo Sapiens or Modern man, but their percusors. Homo sapiens were supposed to have evolved 250 thousand years ago but where exactly is not known. A few isolated skeletons of Homo Sapiens have been found in various regions of the world, but the first sign of settlement and beginning of a Civilization was found in Mesopotamia.
The Region of Mesopotamia is the originator of all Modern Civilization, Values and Ideals that we follow today with some modifications here and there. They were the ones who invented farming, mathematics, geometry, science and the first legal system. They were the First humans to observe the World and draw observations and measurements about it. Even now many pioneering Scientists like Einstein, Bose etc.... can trace their origin from this region. All the major Religions that are now followed throughout the World, originated from this area, Judaism and its offshoots - Christianity and Islam spread to the Western parts of the world while other religions like Hinduism and its offshoot Buddhism spread to the East. Mitharaism another religion that got extinct which was widespread in the Roman Empire also originated here. As the Religions spread and were disseminated all over the world, each acquired some individual characteristics that differentiated them in externally, but on one point - THE CORE - the oldest of all, which was written down long before all the above Religions and Cultures diverged and evolved into their modern-day versions....... they all said ONE COMMON POINT that is, the world was originally created differently and perfectly from what was now existing, but due to the Woman and action of a certain "Evil Agent", the Great Creation collapsed and degenerated into corruption, destruction, vice, violence and decay. The Jewish texts, say that this happened when the Woman ate the fruit from the Forbidden Tree after being enticed by the Serpent. The Hindu texts say that the Great war between Good and Evil that is going on through all time started off because of a Woman. Greek religious texts, which also were much influenced by spread of ideas from these regions also said the the same in the tale of the Pandora letting out all the evils that were locked up in the box.
These religions believed in the fact that theUniverse was created by an all powerful Entity. Judaism named this entity as Yahweh, which can be translated as "That which Was, Is and Shall be"....which seems to suggest a passage of Time. Also known as "Eloah" in Hebrew and "Allah" in Arabic. It was also called as "Alpha and Omega" or the "Begining and the End", which is very similar to the Hindu Trinity "Brahma, Vishnu & Shiva" called "The Creator and the Destroyer". The Greek Creator entity was known as "Chronos - the Sky Father" which also represented Time. Mithraism which is now extinct, also worshipped a Time-based entity called "Ahura Mazda".
The core teaching of the above First and most Ancient Civilization that originated all the Ideals, Values & Science that we follow today including "Thou Must Not Kill", had one common and oldest message of all........ that is, a certain force of unknown and evil origins destroyed the perfect creation of the Time-based Creator Entity and this "Evil force" always acts through the Woman, hence the only way to prevent this force from acting is to restrict the Woman actions in Society to within the home and family and for the Man not to listen to the advice of the woman for anything to do with outside the house and family.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2003 11:17:09 GMT -6
okay, lets say that a drug induced haze on an naturally unstable brain prone for excessive day-dreams and artistic fantasies (female), might cause as such unknown and unique results...like she may have mistook the man stuck on her windshield for a beetle...who knows ?, the human brain is so complex as it has more possible neuronal combinations than atoms in the entire universe.....
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Post by Ed on Jul 8, 2003 16:56:22 GMT -6
according to certain Scientific Principles, some drugs like Ecstasy could temporarily switch some of the trillions of trillions of neuron connections in the brain, such that a Man stuck on a windsheild might appear to be a Insect ......or vice-versa.....its Science, NOT Legal Law...... so perhaps she cold be telling the truth...... You have posted some real crap lately Matthew. I thought you were intelligent but just a little 'different'. Posts like this prove that you certainly are not a 'friend of science' as you obviously think you are. This is pure nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2003 11:39:30 GMT -6
the World is really a stupid place Ed, the Universe was created such that FREE Energy & Plants to convert it Food was ready made and given FREELY for Humans........no one can make Mass-Energy or Plants...now or ever, due to extremely complex Science which need not be discussed here...... in fact the World is SO stoooooopid that the MOST POWERFUL weapon is the most commonly available......Hydrogen available in limitless quantities in Water and say if the Laws of Science allow a non-thermal method of Fusion or a thermal process that doesn't use Uranium, what will all the Artists, Polygamists, Crime Fighters & Fighters of Peace do.......faint, scream, sit in sack-cloth and ashes, gnash their teeth, tear their hair .........? --------------- Here is the thing about possible neuron combinations in the brain: In reality, most neurons are stimulated by thousands of synapses at any one time, all of which contribute toward the behaviour of the postsynaptic nerve cell [36]. This complexity of neural interaction within the human brain is highlighted by Thompson, 1985 [24]. He suggests that the number of possible different combinations of synaptic connections between all neurons is larger than the total number of atomic particles that constitute the known universe. www-users.york.ac.uk/~scf104/neuralmusic/neuron-work.html The human brain, it has been said, is the most complexly organised structure in the universe and to appreciate this you just have to look at some numbers. The brain is made up of one hundred billion nerve cells or "neurons" which is the basic structural and functional units of the nervous system. Each neuron makes something like a thousand to ten thousand contacts with other neurons and these points of contact are called synapses where exchange of information occurs. And based on this information, someone has calculated that the number of possible permutations and combinations of brain activity, in other words the numbers of brain states, exceeds the number of elementary particles in the known universe. www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith2003/reith2003_lecture1_transcript.shtmlThus, there are an astonishingly large number of interconnections possible within the brain, far exceeding the estimate of the total number of atoms in whole visible universe –<br>“There are only 10 to the 70th atoms in the entire observable universe.”<br> [Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (Bethesda, Maryland: Adler and Adler Publishers, 1986), p. 310.] www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/life-complexity-ref.html |
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Post by Donnie on Jul 11, 2003 19:26:13 GMT -6
okay, lets say that a drug induced haze on an naturally unstable brain prone for excessive day-dreams and artistic fantasies (female), might cause as such unknown and unique results...like she may have mistook the man stuck on her windshield for a beetle...who knows ?, the human brain is so complex as it has more possible neuronal combinations than atoms in the entire universe..... You claimed that she told some "truth" that was being disregarded. I will ask the same qustion again (third time now). What was the truth that she told? There is no evidence or claim that she did not know that it was a man stuck in (not "on" as you wrote) her windshield. She stated that she apologized to him. Why do you make things up and claim it is science? Your recent posts are the posts of an artist, a spinner of tall tales. Why don't you just come clean and admit you made a mistake? That is what a scientist would do. An artist would do what you are doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2003 11:34:31 GMT -6
who knows what the brain can cook up.....especially under the influence of drugs, its a massively complex structure....she might have thought anything, realized anything....who knows....its all in the UNKNOWN.......the brain thinks of Art, Religion & Science because it is so complex...which a computer cant, but even then only a minute fraction of the neuronal combinations are used......what is known of it is VERY little......its mainly in the territory of the UNKNOWN....
I would give her the benefit of the doubt....
read the book by "David Deutsch".....The Force of Symmetry...itr gives some idea of the virtual worlds that can be created by the Brain ....
ps:here is an article I wrote before...it also gives another interesting idea.....
---------A Scientific Experiment with our good friend Lewis Briley...... PART A
Now Lewis being a Computer Scientist as well as an Army-man will surely volunteer to submit himself to the cause of Science......for an experiment which I have devised to show something interesting.........the added fact that he is a brave soul willing to test uncharted
territory will be an added advantage as it is a particularly frightening experiment........
of course it will be hypothetical.......so Lewis need not be too concerned......
Now, lets see what to do........
First we place Lewis on the OT Table, and anesthesize him. Then I proceed to insert microsurgical instruments and cut off all his sensory and motor nerves.....the Optic, Auditory, Tactile, Olfactory, Taste...infact all the nerves passing through the foramens of his skull into his brain. To keep his prmitive reflexes intact, we can slice through his brain seperating the brain-stem and spinal cord from the rest of the brain. All the blood vessels carrying blood to and fro from his brain are left intact to keep his brain alive and well nourished. Now lets see what we have......we have Lewis brain isolated
from its nerves....or in other words no input or output is possible from his brain to his body.......
Now let the anesthesia wear off........and we call Lewis.....no response.....again we shout near his ear "LEWIS WAKE UP!".....no response....! We give him some painful stimulus with a sharp object....his muscles contract......so he is still alive.......or his body is and his brain as well as we can detect electromagnetic impulses inside it with an EEG........so it is not brain death as well......but where is Lewis ?!! Of, Lewis Briley....there is no trace..........he is gone.......just the living mass of body flesh, brain, bones, etc remain...........
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So we are now cracking our heads.......Lewis is not responding, but the ECG shows normal heart rhythm and the EEG shows normal brain activity........
So lets now use imagination to see where Lewis went and what happened to him.......
As the anesthesia wears off, Lewis opens his eyes.....or at least his brain gives the impulses to his oculomotor nerves to open his eyes .which has been cut .....but he sees no light as obviously his optic nerves are also
sliced through.......infact NO sensory impulses from the space-time which he has been living in for the past 69 years of his life on Earth can reach him anymore.........
Hence Lewis "sees' a pitch black void stretching out to infinity. He does not feel any gravitational fields of the Earth anymore beacuse we have cut all the sensory nerves including that to his semi-circular canals. He can see nothing excepting darkness, hear nothing, feel nothing......as the brain has no sensory receptors
of its own....only what it gets via the nerves from the sense organs which we have cleverly cut......
So what can Lewis do now.....he can attempt to move his legs, walk, run.......his brain sends all those motor
impulses out, but obvioulsy, it cannot reach his muscles, so we cannot see ANY co-ordination at all, infact
Lewis does not control his body anymore, only his brain-stem reflexes control his body now........
Where is Lewis the PERSON now ? He is actually in a NEW UNIVERSE !!! Yes a potential world extending
out to infinity, he is no longer in the universe his body and brain physically are...... he can move around
infinitely inside this new Universe. He can think thoughts of his childhood in the Village he lived, his time
in the Army, in Libya, in Turkey, his children, his wife, his fights with AKU on this board......as all these
are stored in the brains memory bank...... but he is actually in another Universe whose dimensions are
3D Euclidean, which his brain reconstructs from the experinces fom this Universe which he had lived in for
the past 69 years.......!
Is Lewis now really a full Universe as this one we live in, yes mathematically and physically it IS equivalent to this one !!! We have played God ! (or have we ?).......we have actually created a new Universe (or we have used Lewis' brain...which we did not create...so maybe we can be called a small god !) to create this new Universe.....
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Post by Donnie on Jul 12, 2003 14:27:39 GMT -6
so perhaps she cold be telling the truth...... What truth was she telling? The statement you made about the criminal was not speculative or conditional about your assertion that she said something. It is only spectulative or conditional about whether what you asserted she said was the truth. SO WHAT DID SHE SAY? To put the same question another way, WHEN SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TELLING THE TRUTH WHAT TRUTH COULD SHE HAVE BEEN TELLING? It is the same question for the fourth time, the same one you have contintued to avoid answering with your second-rate artistic and non-scientific replies. Why don't you just adimit you used your artisitic nature to artfully make up a purely imaginative novelistic comment. |
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Post by matthew outside on Jul 12, 2003 23:02:38 GMT -6
hmm...umm....the truth that "ecstasy impaired her judgement".....
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Post by Donnie on Jul 13, 2003 21:22:23 GMT -6
hmm...umm....the truth that "ecstasy impaired her judgement"..... Sorry that doesn't cut it. We are not talking about buying the wrong hat. That can be the result of impaired judgement. We are talking about allowing a man to die a painful death. That is criminal activity, far beyond simple impaired judgement. Her claim of impaired judgement was presented to the jury and they gave it appropriate weight. That is quite an artistic leap from your earlier artistry about her thinking that the man was a large bug. Although you are clearly an artist, you are not a very good artist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2003 11:46:38 GMT -6
whether she though he was a bug or the messiah...ANYTHING is possible for the brain....2 power 80 neuronal combinations is more than the entire number of atoms in the known universe....especially under the influence of drugs......
any idiot who has an grain of sense knows that if you knock & kill somone down while driving ur car, if u report the matter to the police & call medical assistance immediately....its considered an accident....on the other hand if you hide the incident or bury the body secretly, then it will be considered murder.....thats why we can infer the drug impaired her judgemental capacity..... as she was holding a responsible job in society and had no motive for murdering the victim......
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Post by whatnow on Jul 17, 2003 5:55:26 GMT -6
as she was holding a responsible job in society and had no motive for murdering the victim...... That was the problem in fact. Her fear of loosing her own life as she knew it was her impairment. She was to scared to call the police and medics for fear she would be in trouble for her drug inducement. When people are scared they do not think rationally. She made a bad decision and let that poor guy suffer and die. She clearly knew he was injured. She apologized to him on several occasions as he moaned for help. How often do we apologize to bugs we hit while driving? To top it off, she was completely free of any intoxicants when she tried to destroy the evidence and dispose of the body. |
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Post by matthew not logged in on Jul 17, 2003 11:46:38 GMT -6
as her job was a nurse's assistant, she must have been used to the sight of blood and have a strong stomach, as well as clear judgement having worked in the medical field...........hence its very much possible the drug might have impaired her ability to think clearly...... who knows what is happenning in the brain ? it can make u think anything..........drugs like LSD, heroin, cocaine......ask Lewis on this board....he claims to have spoken to his ancestors in some Red Indian ceremony where they smoke weeds !  |
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