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Post by das on May 31, 2003 16:26:45 GMT -6
Here we go with more taxpayer legal expense and another excersize of our legal system. Susan Atkins, Charles Manson, and the rest of the Manson killers should have been dead years ago. But no, because of an incompetent Supreme Court and time passing, here they come again. www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-05-31-manson-suit_x.htmWhat we need to focus on is fast track executions, substantially shortened appeals, no plea bargains, etc. The DP is the law of the land. The DP is highly favored by most Americans. So let's get on with the program and start executing these scumbags. It's really disgusting to see these twits like Susan Atkins still residing on planet Earth. It's even more disgusting to see them whining and complaining about their legal treatment. |
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Post by john2 on May 31, 2003 17:17:10 GMT -6
but its a pretty stupid system that allows such claims to be lodged...
Capitalism gone mad, Das, you should be proud of her :-)
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Post by GlennF on Jun 1, 2003 3:23:40 GMT -6
Since when do YOU think claims or appeals are stupid ? Oh, I suppose you only accept them when they apply to death penalty cases!
What was that about locking murderers up for life and forgetting about them, contrary to your claims that doesn't appear to work either! It also doesn't look too good for the costs of life imprisonment, so we'd better keep this quiet, eh!
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Post by john2 on Jun 1, 2003 4:09:15 GMT -6
I referred to frivolous lawsuits... anyone with half a brain could see that...
As for the level of appeals, if folks like you were not so hell bent on the practice of pre meditated state sanctioned homicide, there'd be less appeals against conviction / sentence severity, and probably more effective ones too, rather than the rubber stamp system you presently have where factual innocence is not necessaril grounds for an appeal....
Now please try and learn something and be a little less silly.... its beginning to show you up
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Post by Donnie on Jun 2, 2003 3:32:49 GMT -6
As for the level of appeals, if folks like you were not so hell bent on the practice of pre meditated state sanctioned homicide, there'd be less appeals against conviction / sentence severity, and probably more effective ones too, rather than the rubber stamp system you presently have where factual innocence is not necessaril grounds for an appeal.... Factual innocecene is always grounds for appeal and anybody who can show themselves factually innocent would have a successful appeal. What is not grounds for appeal is merely saying that a person has some minor evidence that would tend to show innocence. The same lawyers and groups that appeal death sentences would shift their appeals to less just sentences. The appeals would not decrease until a catch a release program was all that was left. Then the same lawyers would sue the state for not punishing criminals enough. |
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Post by Kat on Jun 2, 2003 17:04:05 GMT -6
I cannot but sorta hope that her outrageous lawsuit just makes it more difficult for her to get out, not based on any legal point - but rather, my feelings towards her.
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Post by das on Jun 2, 2003 18:39:54 GMT -6
If Susan Atkins was dead -- years ago -- as she should be via the DP -- then we wouldn't be having this discussion and the problem would be solved. I cannot but sorta hope that her outrageous lawsuit just makes it more difficult for her to get out, not based on any legal point - but rather, my feelings towards her. |
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Post by Kat on Jun 3, 2003 21:31:36 GMT -6
She stabbed a woman who was pregnant with a child. I don't really care if she is sorry now or repentant. It's one of those cases where I hope she never gets out of prison. If Susan Atkins was dead -- years ago -- as she should be via the DP -- then we wouldn't be having this discussion and the problem would be solved. |
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