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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2009 21:09:00 GMT -6
Thanks for explaining my mistakes... Your biggest "mistake" is coming here. The fact that you're mouthing platitudes means exactly nothing at all. You're a scumpal. It's a recognized psychiatric disease, hybristophilia. Why not go get it treated instead of crapping up the whole site here? Is it too much to ask that you just get lost?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 21:14:10 GMT -6
Thanks for explaining my mistakes... Your biggest "mistake" is coming here. The fact that you're mouthing platitudes means exactly nothing at all. You're a scumpal. It's a recognized psychiatric disease, hybristophilia. Why not go get it treated instead of crapping up the whole site here? Is it too much to ask that you just get lost? and Thank you Cali for being you
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Post by Royd on Mar 5, 2009 2:13:50 GMT -6
Somebody wrote;
“His address was once send to me by Amnesty International. I started writing because I was against the dp.”
“I started writing in 1984. There was no internet back then.”
Amnesty International, are most definitely not the sort of organisation to send out the addresses of those who are in prison for stealing jam out of donuts, or for scrumping apples.
Internet or no internet, by your own admission you are against the death penalty, and started to write to this prisoner, who AI had told you about.
So you knew from the beginning what this persons crime was, it was murder, not fiddling tax returns, or shop lifting, it was MURDER, the details of which are irrelevant because murder is murder, unless of course the details of the murder were to be the salacious icing on a cake for you.
I know many people who are against the death penalty, Wonder Woman included, but they don’t strike up relationships with murderers, they work tirelessly to seek out what they believe to be better forms of punishment for the crime of murder.
Those I know who have had contact with inmates on death row, are not in the habit of hugging them, it is purely out of the interests of making sure a miscarriage of justice does not occur.
You are an all together different kettle of fish, a pathetic person comes to mind, that or you are so incredibly naïve you are need of therapy yourself.
Amazing, just when you think you have seen it all, along comes Somebody!!!
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 4:38:42 GMT -6
Do you teach your children to be friendly? I do. I don't teach my children anything since one is an adult and the other is, in fact, my teacher 'on high', so to speak, compliments of one of the murderers whose crime you probably wouldn't be terribly shocked over. In any case, when they were young, I taught them that truth trumps all things, including, and maybe especially, false friendliness. I don't have a need or want to be liked by all people, and I sure didn't instill in them the thinking that they ought. Walk around with a fake smile and that doesn't make you more popular. It just gets your fake smile noticed. I noticed. How come you know you can be this judgemental about me? How come that you are this sure?
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 5:05:17 GMT -6
Hi Andie,
You wrote: "So your saying that it is easier to talk to someone who kills one person but if it was 6 million then you wouldn't bother? What I am trying to understand is why is it ok to look past one life taken and not 6 million. Murder is murder is murder no matter the number of victims. If you make an exception to one you make an exception to all. Its kind of hypocritcal don't you think? You say you don't agree with murder, yet isn't writing to a murderer supporting him or her? Helping them through the "tough times" in jail or on DR? Providing company and what not? By continuing to write to him do you not accept what he has done? To be frank if you did not accept it-you would have stopped writing.
Therefore using my deductive reasoning: if you accept a murderer and the root word for murderer is murder then... you accept murder. or tolerate it.
I don't think murderers are capable of remorse.
My reply: "I am against the dp. I thought writing with a dr-inmate would be a way to express my opinion when I was 18 years old. I don't think that anymore. There are other ways. Not wanting the dp is something completely different then writing with a dr-inmate because yes, that's true, the nature of the crime does matter when it comes to corresponding to someone. About supporting a murderer's crime by supporting him: that is, honestly, the best summary I have ever read to express the way pro's think about writing to a dr-inmate. To me it is not like that at all (write to him because he is in dr but hate his crime) but I have to think about this argument. Now I can see the anger over here in a different light. To you I seem like a lover of murderers? Geez... But, although I would want to answer you, I know you are probably not believing anything I'll say. I wrote many things here. I can understand disagreement, I don't understand this "you are a *f---ing* liar". I don't lie. But you will never believe me over here, right?
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 5:06:07 GMT -6
Hi Wonderwoman, Thank you for your serious reply. Do me a favor and stop starting all of your posts with "Thank you for your serious reply". Its annoying already. Quit being a pansy and come up with a new line. Ok
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 5:19:10 GMT -6
Somebody wrote; “His address was once send to me by Amnesty International. I started writing because I was against the dp.” “I started writing in 1984. There was no internet back then.” Amnesty International, are most definitely not the sort of organisation to send out the addresses of those who are in prison for stealing jam out of donuts, or for scrumping apples. Internet or no internet, by your own admission you are against the death penalty, and started to write to this prisoner, who AI had told you about. So you knew from the beginning what this persons crime was, it was murder, not fiddling tax returns, or shop lifting, it was MURDER, the details of which are irrelevant because murder is murder, unless of course the details of the murder were to be the salacious icing on a cake for you. I know many people who are against the death penalty, Wonder Woman included, but they don’t strike up relationships with murderers, they work tirelessly to seek out what they believe to be better forms of punishment for the crime of murder. Those I know who have had contact with inmates on death row, are not in the habit of hugging them, it is purely out of the interests of making sure a miscarriage of justice does not occur. You are an all together different kettle of fish, a pathetic person comes to mind, that or you are so incredibly naïve you are need of therapy yourself. Amazing, just when you think you have seen it all, along comes Somebody!!! ;D I have been definatelly, absolutely naive... In my family I am well known for that. I am the one who talks to beggars and believes the things people tell me (my most famoes answer: "Really?"). I have made many mistakes because of that. People could always take advantage of me. Now I'm more careful. It's still my weakness - everybody has a weakness, right? - but I've grown up into a somehow little less naive person as I was when I was 18 years old... I will never start writing with a dr-inmate again to show that I'm against the dp. I do want to finish this correspondence because that's who I am as well. I keep my promises, even the one I made when I was 18 years old. I finish what I start.
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 5:26:23 GMT -6
Somebody wrote; “His address was once send to me by Amnesty International. I started writing because I was against the dp.” “I started writing in 1984. There was no internet back then.” Amnesty International, are most definitely not the sort of organisation to send out the addresses of those who are in prison for stealing jam out of donuts, or for scrumping apples. Internet or no internet, by your own admission you are against the death penalty, and started to write to this prisoner, who AI had told you about. So you knew from the beginning what this persons crime was, it was murder, not fiddling tax returns, or shop lifting, it was MURDER, the details of which are irrelevant because murder is murder, unless of course the details of the murder were to be the salacious icing on a cake for you. I know many people who are against the death penalty, Wonder Woman included, but they don’t strike up relationships with murderers, they work tirelessly to seek out what they believe to be better forms of punishment for the crime of murder. Those I know who have had contact with inmates on death row, are not in the habit of hugging them, it is purely out of the interests of making sure a miscarriage of justice does not occur. You are an all together different kettle of fish, a pathetic person comes to mind, that or you are so incredibly naïve you are need of therapy yourself. Amazing, just when you think you have seen it all, along comes Somebody!!! Back then Amnesty wrote something like: "Whatever terrible/heinous crime someone has committed, he/she still is a human being. Family of dr-inmates will stop visiting, most of the times, because the dp in the U.S.A. is so popular. Everybody needs someone to talk to... who wants to write?" I decided to do that. I thought the details of the crime didn't matter, I was against the dp anyway, right? But it does. Sure it does. Keeping somebody compagny when he has shot somebody accidently during an armed robbery is something completely different than crimes who include many victims, rape, children or kidnapping... I was naive when I was 18? I sure was.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 5, 2009 5:53:10 GMT -6
Somebody, i agree with your compassion as i feel that some on here have lost theirs, however saying that, when someone kidnaps, murders, rapes or abuses children for sexual gratification then they become worse then pondscum and should be treated as such and wiped out. On wiping them out i mean that seriously. Peados can not be cured so in this respect i am in agreement with Nazi concentration camp technigues. These POS;s i would gladly love to get of, slowly and painfully so before they cross that barrier between life and death they understand the pain that they cause the kids and their parents and families. I hate these bastards with a vengence and i do not have any respect for them as human beings. None.
Murderers are dickheads and scumbals and should be treated with the full wieght of the law and justice and if that means the DP then so be it. Not all murderers are scum in my eyes, it depends on the type of murder, i.e. first degree, second degree, manslaughter, intent etc. All should be treated differently and all aspects of the evidence wieghed and discussed. For some who kill in a country that has the dp or in a State that has the dp to me they are stupid, they know the consequences of their actions so i have no sympathy for them. What i dont like and disagree with is the lack of consistency. If you have the dp you have the dp, you can not have one rule for one and one for the other. Its unfair and unjust. Take the US for example, some States have it, others dont. Why should a killer get the dp in say for instance Texas, and next door in New Mexico or another state they get LWOP? that dont figure. its unfair and leave a lot of unanswered questions for both sets of supporters. Its wrong. You have it or you dont.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 5, 2009 6:12:26 GMT -6
And in that you have the conundrum that is the United States.
States rights have long been a tenant and point of contention in this country. Regardless of what you may hear, our civil war was fought over the issues of states rights; one of those rights in question was slavery. And, in a nice transition, the current issues in this country, specifically the opposition to the administrations latest legislation, are concerned over the shift of more power from the states to the federal gov't.
The DP is one of those federal/state puzzles. Federal law allows the DP, state laws may or may not depending on what the voters in that state have decided. Additionally, and here is a confusing point, if you are convicted in a state court you are subject to state and federal laws and punishment; if you are convicted in federal court then you stand against the federal gov't alone.
Bottom line, be careful where you standing when you commit a crime in this country, you may pay for it with your life.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 5, 2009 6:32:07 GMT -6
Hi Sub, hows it going mate, alright.
I understand that now thanks for clearing that up. Its still unfair and needs to be addressed. I am guy who likes things organised and correct etc, i dont like inconsistency or bad organisation. I dont agree with the dp not because imagainst it parce, im against the inhumane way some of these criminals are treated, if convicted and sentenced to dath then have your usual appeals and investigations and then be done with it, having a guy hanging around on Death Row for over two decades etc is wrong. I will never agree to the electric chair and thankfully rarely now if at all this is used. If it could be garunteed that the evidence, all the evidence is correct etc and the conviction safe then get on with it, execute the moron and get it over with.
i am a fan of hypoxia as i feel its more humane. Im not interested in vengence, im intereted in the law and i want that failsafe, i dont like ti when it becomes a circus and is witnessed other then by those who are immediately responsible for the execution, imnot even sure if i agree with families from the victim or the criminal being there. Until the law is failsafe then i would glady support it for the most hienous crimes. Once your dead you dead and oooops, sorry about that, we made a mistake, we were wrong, they were actually innocent. Never mind, have a letter of apology. That would work not. i know thats a rareity but still it happens, ive been on this site long enough to hear of bad policement, bad lawyers and *deleted* poor state attorneys to know that some have been executed when innocent.
i would never dance in the streets over the death of a human being regardless who they are i have too much self respect for that but neither would i lose any sleep if indded all were guilty and executed within 5 years. thats more then long enough to have a safe conviction.
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 7:50:48 GMT -6
Somebody, i agree with your compassion as i feel that some on here have lost theirs, however saying that, when someone kidnaps, murders, rapes or abuses children for sexual gratification then they become worse then pondscum and should be treated as such and wiped out. On wiping them out i mean that seriously. Peados can not be cured so in this respect i am in agreement with Nazi concentration camp technigues. These POS;s i would gladly love to get of, slowly and painfully so before they cross that barrier between life and death they understand the pain that they cause the kids and their parents and families. I hate these bastards with a vengence and i do not have any respect for them as human beings. None. Murderers are dickheads and scumbals and should be treated with the full wieght of the law and justice and if that means the DP then so be it. Not all murderers are scum in my eyes, it depends on the type of murder, i.e. first degree, second degree, manslaughter, intent etc. All should be treated differently and all aspects of the evidence wieghed and discussed. For some who kill in a country that has the dp or in a State that has the dp to me they are stupid, they know the consequences of their actions so i have no sympathy for them. What i dont like and disagree with is the lack of consistency. If you have the dp you have the dp, you can not have one rule for one and one for the other. Its unfair and unjust. Take the US for example, some States have it, others dont. Why should a killer get the dp in say for instance Texas, and next door in New Mexico or another state they get LWOP? that dont figure. its unfair and leave a lot of unanswered questions for both sets of supporters. Its wrong. You have it or you dont. Hi Lawrence, I agree with "when someone kidnaps, murders, rapes or abuses children for sexual gratification then they become worse then pondscum". How to punish them is something we don't agree with but I hate it. I work with children, have children. It's beyond imagination that someone is capable to do that to them. The hardest thing for me is to imagine the latest hours of those children, alone, afraid, hurt...
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 8:18:36 GMT -6
Thanks for explaining my mistakes... Your biggest "mistake" is coming here. The fact that you're mouthing platitudes means exactly nothing at all. You're a scumpal. It's a recognized psychiatric disease, hybristophilia. Why not go get it treated instead of crapping up the whole site here? Is it too much to ask that you just get lost? I don't have hybristophilia. As I said before I am not attracted to this inmate and didn't know what he'd done when I started writing. Hybristophilia excists, I know, but it is defined as "Hybristophilia is a paraphilia involving being sexually aroused or attracted to people who have committed an outrage or a gruesome crime. In popular culture, this phenomenon is also known as "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome. Many high-profile criminals, particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes, receive fan mail in prison, presumably as a result of this phenomenon. In some cases, admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison." If it's so good for me to get lost, then how come that I'm not ignored? How come people over here keep on challenging me (this thread) or keep on asking questions? And how come this is called a discussion board for both sides, pro and anti?
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Post by Stormyweather on Mar 5, 2009 8:59:25 GMT -6
My reply: "I am against the dp. I thought writing with a dr-inmate would be a way to express my opinion when I was 18 years old. I don't think that anymore. Did you think writing to them word reveal the grievousness of the crime them committed?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 9:06:10 GMT -6
I don't teach my children anything since one is an adult and the other is, in fact, my teacher 'on high', so to speak, compliments of one of the murderers whose crime you probably wouldn't be terribly shocked over. In any case, when they were young, I taught them that truth trumps all things, including, and maybe especially, false friendliness. I don't have a need or want to be liked by all people, and I sure didn't instill in them the thinking that they ought. Walk around with a fake smile and that doesn't make you more popular. It just gets your fake smile noticed. I noticed. How come you know you can be this judgemental about me? How come that you are this sure? Take it that I'm not judging you, rather, what you write, because that's the truth of it. If, for example, you said you were a scumpal but in reality weren't, I'd say the same things at you. I am not one to jump straight onto a 'slap the scumpal' bandwagon that inevitably comes with this territory. The things that you're telling us ~ and your own weak defense of your continued scumpalship ~ don't exactly ring with bells of honesty. And, best of all, I HATE dishonesty. But, whatever. I think that you brought getting in touch with the MVS of your murderer up here for the sole purpose of getting a rise out of the MVS present. And, we've been oh so freaking mean to you. Whaaaa. Problem I have is precisely that you had to have expected (wanted?) the angst, since you've been down this road before. So, I think that you never intended to be in touch with the MVS of your murderer ~~~ just wanted to bait and switch ~ draw us in, get us to smack you around awhile ~ and then say 'okay, you convinced me not to contact them, now stop picking on me'. It's BS ~ IMNHO IF you are a therapist, then you already know that what you're doing here can contribute greatly to the distress of *some* MVS who live with PTSD. IF you are a therapist, you ought know that people have to find their own way through the muddle that is their lives. IF you are a therapist, then you should know there isn't just one road to enlightenment and peace, but many ~ and that a sense of peace isn't necessarily what's best for all people. IF you are a therapist, I'm thinking it has to do with aromatherapy. But, poor poor misunderstood you who's always so polite and lady-like and sending best regards messages. Fake smile.
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Post by Californian on Mar 5, 2009 9:19:23 GMT -6
I don't have hybristophilia. And I'm an astronaut. Good question. Fellow posters, perhaps the way to rid ourselves of this festering hemorrhoid on the board's anatomy is to simply ignore her. After all, it's attention she desires, and she's getting it. I respectfully request that we ignore her future posts, starting now.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 5, 2009 9:28:28 GMT -6
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Post by lawrence on Mar 5, 2009 9:30:26 GMT -6
Right on a different note, has anyone seen this new Clint eastwood film Gand Torreano, im off to see it in an hour so any ideas, is it good or tosh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 9:45:18 GMT -6
Fellow posters, perhaps the way to rid ourselves of this festering hemorrhoid on the board's anatomy is to simply ignore her. After all, it's attention she desires, and she's getting it. I respectfully request that we ignore her future posts, starting now. One thing's for certain ~ she's got the usual invitation elsewhere where she won't get abused so horribly. Maybe she'll take Granny up on that. And, I respectfully submit that you're wearing a fake smile right about now
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 9:50:52 GMT -6
Freaking hell Bob, you are outragious , give the girl some slack. ..... enough rope and all that? As opposed to we, who dwell here, in the caverns? .............. like in a petri dish?
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Post by Californian on Mar 5, 2009 9:53:49 GMT -6
E. coli.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 5, 2009 10:07:20 GMT -6
Good question. Fellow posters, perhaps the way to rid ourselves of this festering hemorrhoid on the board's anatomy is to simply ignore her. After all, it's attention she desires, and she's getting it. I respectfully request that we ignore her future posts, starting now. Finally! You've been beating this horse for days. Have a seat and get a cool one.
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Post by Lauren on Mar 5, 2009 10:10:26 GMT -6
As I said before I am not attracted to this inmate and didn't know what he'd done when I started writing. Either I missed something, but didn't you say you started writing because you opposed the DP. So by writing to someone on DR, wouldn't you know that they had done something horrible to another human being? Anyways, even if the weren't on DR, if they are in prison, it's very high chance they are in there because they killed someone. By sending someone "fan mail" also constitutes as hybristophilia. Anyways, I think, deep down, there has to be something wrong with people who seek companionship or friendship from people who murder. They can't see it themselves, but honestly, to actually go and look for someone in prison.... There are many lovely pros and antis on this board. But, as you said, this board is for PROS and ANTIS... not Pros, antis and Scumpals.
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Post by Lady on Mar 5, 2009 10:21:34 GMT -6
I am someone who has spoken to the victims family in my brothers case, but in my case it is a little bit different . I am not someone who just contacted them out of the blue ,with no connection at all to the situation .That is the difference between me and you Somebody . I am unfortunately related to the person who committed this terrible crime , and not someone who wants to be a do gooder and get involved AFTER the fact ,with no connection or reason other than to try and be like a character in a movie .Got to admit , it is a freaking movie , they took alot of creative licenses with parts of the movie .
I seen them at my brothers trial day after day . I was there to listen to every detail of what my brother did and every detail about the man he murdered . I felt the need to reach out after the fact ,not sure how I would be received , because I felt very sorry for the loss they suffered at the hands of my family member . I felt tremendous guilt for what he did .
His wife told me " I wanted to speak to you but was told by the prosecutor not to . I felt so bad for you sitting alone day after day ." We still talk from time to time, but she has since moved to Florida . She has often asked me " What will be accomplished putting him to death after all these years " and for that I have no answer . Everyone on both sides is hurt and I would never attempt to push my brothers good points on them . I would never ask them to forgive my brother because it is not my place . I would never push them to support clemency .
If you was to contact your inmates victim survivors , I doubt they would be as receptive to you because you are someone who wants to insert yourself into the situation after the fact . I don't believe your motives are pure but perhaps you hope to get them on your side and push for clemency . Leaving them be would be best .
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 5, 2009 10:25:23 GMT -6
Fellow posters, perhaps the way to rid ourselves of this festering hemorrhoid on the board's anatomy is to simply ignore her. LOL. Good luck with that, Robert. The ladies here live for a good catfight. In fact, when this place gets too quiet, there are those here who will troll the anti boards looking to start something, which inevitably causes the attention-seekers to come back.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 5, 2009 10:29:20 GMT -6
Hi Sub, hows it going mate, alright. Its still unfair and needs to be addressed. I am guy who likes things organised and correct i am a fan of hypoxia as i feel its more humane. i would never dance in the streets over the death of a human being Lawence, I am well thank-you. I had to look up hypoxia. I'm not a fan of dancing over a corpse either. Unfair - organized and correct - this one I must contemplate as it is not a quick and easy answer.
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 10:47:04 GMT -6
My reply: "I am against the dp. I thought writing with a dr-inmate would be a way to express my opinion when I was 18 years old. I don't think that anymore. Did you think writing to them word reveal the grievousness of the crime them committed? No...
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 10:53:28 GMT -6
Ho Wonderwoman, You wrote: "I think that you brought getting in touch with the MVS of your murderer up here for the sole purpose of getting a rise out of the MVS present." My answer: "No." You wrote: "IF you are a therapist, then you already know that what you're doing here can contribute greatly to the distress of *some* MVS who live with PTSD. IF you are a therapist, you ought know that people have to find their own way through the muddle that is their lives. IF you are a therapist, then you should know there isn't just one road to enlightenment and peace, but many ~ and that a sense of peace isn't necessarily what's best for all people. IF you are a therapist, I'm thinking it has to do with aromatherapy." Answer: "I am a children's therapist. I only answer questions here. I agree with many things you write about MVS's. I do not judge them. In fact, I wrote that from all the people in the world I understand that THEY want the murderer of their loved ones being executed. Whether or not society agrees with their feelings is another question. But I accept their feelings. In fact, if I were a MVS myself, I would probably want to get him killed personally."
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Post by somebody on Mar 5, 2009 11:00:03 GMT -6
Hi Lauren, You wrote: "Either I missed something, but didn't you say you started writing because you opposed the DP. So by writing to someone on DR, wouldn't you know that they had done something horrible to another human being? Anyways, even if the weren't on DR, if they are in prison, it's very high chance they are in there because they killed someone." My answer: "Yes, I knew that. But in this post I referred to Californian who thought I was sexually aroused because of the crime. If so, I would have wanted to know everything about it. Right?" You wrote: "By sending someone "fan mail" also constitutes as hybristophilia. Anyways, I think, deep down, there has to be something wrong with people who seek companionship or friendship from people who murder. They can't see it themselves, but honestly, to actually go and look for someone in prison...." My answer: "NO fanmail. And hybristophilia has "being sexual aroused" as one of the main characteristics. I did not seek companionship nor friendship. I wanted to help. Many years later this changed and became some kind of friendship. I still hate his crime though. Don't you know about this difference? Care for a person but hate his behavior, hate what he has done to be sentenced to death? That never changed."
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Post by Grey on Mar 5, 2009 12:26:25 GMT -6
Hi Andie, You wrote: "So your saying that it is easier to talk to someone who kills one person but if it was 6 million then you wouldn't bother? What I am trying to understand is why is it ok to look past one life taken and not 6 million. Murder is murder is murder no matter the number of victims. If you make an exception to one you make an exception to all. Its kind of hypocritcal don't you think? You say you don't agree with murder, yet isn't writing to a murderer supporting him or her? Helping them through the "tough times" in jail or on DR? Providing company and what not? By continuing to write to him do you not accept what he has done? To be frank if you did not accept it-you would have stopped writing. Therefore using my deductive reasoning: if you accept a murderer and the root word for murderer is murder then... you accept murder. or tolerate it. I don't think murderers are capable of remorse. My reply: "I am against the dp. I thought writing with a dr-inmate would be a way to express my opinion when I was 18 years old. I don't think that anymore. There are other ways. Not wanting the dp is something completely different then writing with a dr-inmate because yes, that's true, the nature of the crime does matter when it comes to corresponding to someone. About supporting a murderer's crime by supporting him: that is, honestly, the best summary I have ever read to express the way pro's think about writing to a dr-inmate. To me it is not like that at all (write to him because he is in dr but hate his crime) but I have to think about this argument. Now I can see the anger over here in a different light. To you I seem like a lover of murderers? Geez... But, although I would want to answer you, I know you are probably not believing anything I'll say. I wrote many things here. I can understand disagreement, I don't understand this "you are a *screwing* liar". I don't lie. But you will never believe me over here, right? First, I never implied that you are in a romantic relationship-it was just a general statement to people who write to murderers whether they are family, friends, or more. If you accept that person by continuing to write to them then some how, I assume that their past action does not phase you anymore. Like I said, you could have stopped writing after you found out exactly what they did if that action personally and morally bothered you-but you didn't. And whether or not you continue to write to anyother DR inmate you speak from experience and you understand why other people continue to write or begin to write to murderers. Its a web and it pretty much socializes murder. That is: it is someone will always support you if you take another life. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
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