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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:10:12 GMT -6
Hi Stormyweather, Glad that you don't hate her (although I thought so). Still don't get it why you disgust her... Thank you for your reply though, :-) Somebody He murdered her father, and she cries for him but not her father. You can admire and I can find it disgusting. How dare you say she did not cry for her father? How dare you? Have you been there? Years after this has happened she still was crying for her father.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 18:11:50 GMT -6
He murdered her father, and she cries for him but not her father. You can admire and I can find it disgusting. How dare you say she did not cry for her father? How dare you? Have you been there? Years after this has happened she still was crying for her father. How dare I what? While on the stand she didn't.
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:20:00 GMT -6
How dare you say she did not cry for her father? How dare you? Have you been there? Years after this has happened she still was crying for her father. How dare I what? While on the stand she didn't. Can you tell which tears are for her father and which tears are not? She still misses him so much, there are no words to describe how much.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 18:22:58 GMT -6
How dare I what? While on the stand she didn't. Can you tell which tears are for her father and which tears are not? She still misses him so much, there are no words to describe how much. Well from reading the description, she cried when talking about the convict while on the stand but not her father.
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:30:25 GMT -6
Can you tell which tears are for her father and which tears are not? She still misses him so much, there are no words to describe how much. Well from reading the description, she cried when talking about the convict while on the stand but not her father. Well, I don't have this story from a description. She told me, in person. She still misses her father so much that it hurts. When she was standing on the stand she cried for all the sadness involved, the death of her father, her pain, the upcoming execution... it was about everything all together. Sadness because of the sadness. She cried and tried to do the one thing in this mess of grief and pain she could still change; the execution. She did not want another daughter go through the same hell she had to go through so she pleaded for LWOP. She managed to get this sentence for the murderer of her father. LWOP is fine with her. It's not about forgiveness, it's about another punishment. Now the daughter or relatives of this murderer don't have to go through the same hell as she went through.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 18:33:55 GMT -6
How dare I what? While on the stand she didn't. Can you tell which tears are for her father and which tears are not? She still misses him so much, there are no words to describe how much. I could tell. I watched the program. She only cried when she was begging to save the life of her father's murderer and her attempted murderer. She did not shed a tear when talking about the murder and the attack on her. So there Btw, this wasn't the sentencing. She was fine with the DP at the sentencing. She changed her mind later on and went on this crusade.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 18:35:13 GMT -6
Well from reading the description, she cried when talking about the convict while on the stand but not her father. Well, I don't have this story from a description. She told me, in person. She still misses her father so much that it hurts. When she was standing on the stand she cried for all the sadness involved, the death of her father, her pain, the upcoming execution... it was about everything all together. Sadness because of the sadness. She cried and tried to do the one thing in this mess of grief and pain she could still change; the execution. She did not want another daughter go through the same hell she had to go through so she pleaded for LWOP. She managed to get this sentence for the murderer of her father. LWOP is fine with her. It's not about forgiveness, it's about another punishment. Now the daughter or relatives of this murderer don't have to go through the same hell as she went through. Well then blame the program that edited it out. I can still feel anyway I want. Why should you care? She got what she wanted, so why do you care how I feel?
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 18:40:02 GMT -6
Now the daughter or relatives of this murderer don't have to go through the same hell as she went through. They would have never had to go what she went through anyway. He wouldn't have been stabbed to death nor would have they been stabbed and survived as she did.
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:41:16 GMT -6
Well, I don't have this story from a description. She told me, in person. She still misses her father so much that it hurts. When she was standing on the stand she cried for all the sadness involved, the death of her father, her pain, the upcoming execution... it was about everything all together. Sadness because of the sadness. She cried and tried to do the one thing in this mess of grief and pain she could still change; the execution. She did not want another daughter go through the same hell she had to go through so she pleaded for LWOP. She managed to get this sentence for the murderer of her father. LWOP is fine with her. It's not about forgiveness, it's about another punishment. Now the daughter or relatives of this murderer don't have to go through the same hell as she went through. Well then blame the program that edited it out. I can still feel anyway I want. Why should you care? She got what she wanted, so why do you care how I feel? Ok, I blame the program.... I do care. You would too, if this was about someone you like very much, right?
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:43:11 GMT -6
Now the daughter or relatives of this murderer don't have to go through the same hell as she went through. They would have never had to go what she went through anyway. He wouldn't have been stabbed to death nor would have they been stabbed and survived as she did. Well, she was the daughter of a father who died unwillingly. When the murderer was put to death, there would be a second daughter of a father who died unwillingly. That's what I meant by this...
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:44:14 GMT -6
Can you tell which tears are for her father and which tears are not? She still misses him so much, there are no words to describe how much. I could tell. I watched the program. She only cried when she was begging to save the life of her father's murderer and her attempted murderer. She did not shed a tear when talking about the murder and the attack on her. So there Btw, this wasn't the sentencing. She was fine with the DP at the sentencing. She changed her mind later on and went on this crusade. I know she changed her mind later. First she wanted to kill him personally, if she'd have the change...
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Post by Californian on Feb 23, 2009 18:49:24 GMT -6
I know she changed her mind later. First she wanted to kill him personally, if she'd have the change... Is it even remotely possible you could just get lost, and surf over the PTO or CCRAP? They like people like you there. Really. Wouldn't you feel more at home?
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 18:51:02 GMT -6
I know she changed her mind later. First she wanted to kill him personally, if she'd have the change... Is it even remotely possible you could just get lost, and surf over the PTO or CCRAP? They like people like you there. Really. Wouldn't you feel more at home? No. They agree with everything I say. It's boring. I don't learn anything new...
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Post by somebody on Feb 23, 2009 19:13:17 GMT -6
Hey Stormyweather, Greggsmom, Californian and maybe others, It's past midnight here. I'm going to bed. Will return to this board tomorrow. Sleep well!
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 19:17:41 GMT -6
They would have never had to go what she went through anyway. He wouldn't have been stabbed to death nor would have they been stabbed and survived as she did. Well, she was the daughter of a father who died unwillingly. When the murderer was put to death, there would be a second daughter of a father who died unwillingly. That's what I meant by this... He still wouldn't have gone through what he put them through. His death would have been peaceful. I guess you could say that the murderer would die unwillingly but that's a chance you take when you murder and know what the consquences could be.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 23, 2009 19:23:33 GMT -6
I could tell. I watched the program. She only cried when she was begging to save the life of her father's murderer and her attempted murderer. She did not shed a tear when talking about the murder and the attack on her. So there Btw, this wasn't the sentencing. She was fine with the DP at the sentencing. She changed her mind later on and went on this crusade. I know she changed her mind later. First she wanted to kill him personally, if she'd have the change... Boy, I hope he doesn't escape.
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Post by Californian on Feb 23, 2009 20:14:46 GMT -6
I'm going to bed. Will return to this board tomorrow. Gee, I can't wait.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 20:23:19 GMT -6
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 3:49:20 GMT -6
Well, she was the daughter of a father who died unwillingly. When the murderer was put to death, there would be a second daughter of a father who died unwillingly. That's what I meant by this... He still wouldn't have gone through what he put them through. His death would have been peaceful. I guess you could say that the murderer would die unwillingly but that's a chance you take when you murder and know what the consquences could be. But the daughter of this murderer wasn't to blame, right? Yet she was about to suffer the same way as SueZann, when her father should have been executed.
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 3:53:08 GMT -6
I know she changed her mind later. First she wanted to kill him personally, if she'd have the change... Boy, I hope he doesn't escape. I hope so too! I hope that the U.S.A., instead of paying a lot of money to kill a few murderers a year, put money in making the prisons more safe than they are now.
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 3:53:48 GMT -6
I'm going to bed. Will return to this board tomorrow. Gee, I can't wait.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 24, 2009 8:37:54 GMT -6
He still wouldn't have gone through what he put them through. His death would have been peaceful. I guess you could say that the murderer would die unwillingly but that's a chance you take when you murder and know what the consquences could be. But the daughter of this murderer wasn't to blame, right? Yet she was about to suffer the same way as SueZann, when her father should have been executed. No she wouldn't have unless she would have watched her father be stabbed to death. I don't think that's how murderers are executed here last time I checked.
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 11:56:50 GMT -6
But the daughter of this murderer wasn't to blame, right? Yet she was about to suffer the same way as SueZann, when her father should have been executed. No she wouldn't have unless she would have watched her father be stabbed to death. I don't think that's how murderers are executed here last time I checked. You know what I mean. By what SueZann did, ask for LWOP instead of the dp for the murderer of her father, she managed to spare the murderer's daughter for missing her father as well. This girl couldn't do anything about her father becoming a murderer, right? Children love their parents when they are still children. This girl, whose father became a murderer, loved him anyway. Because of SueZann she still has a father...
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Feb 24, 2009 12:08:46 GMT -6
I'm going to bed. Will return to this board tomorrow. Gee, I can't wait. You're a better man than I. Check please!
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 24, 2009 12:49:44 GMT -6
No she wouldn't have unless she would have watched her father be stabbed to death. I don't think that's how murderers are executed here last time I checked. You know what I mean. By what SueZann did, ask for LWOP instead of the dp for the murderer of her father, she managed to spare the murderer's daughter for missing her father as well. This girl couldn't do anything about her father becoming a murderer, right? Children love their parents when they are still children. This girl, whose father became a murderer, loved him anyway. Because of SueZann she still has a father... Why would someone miss a violent father?
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 13:08:52 GMT -6
You know what I mean. By what SueZann did, ask for LWOP instead of the dp for the murderer of her father, she managed to spare the murderer's daughter for missing her father as well. This girl couldn't do anything about her father becoming a murderer, right? Children love their parents when they are still children. This girl, whose father became a murderer, loved him anyway. Because of SueZann she still has a father... Why would someone miss a violent father? You are kidding, right?
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 24, 2009 13:50:15 GMT -6
Why would someone miss a violent father? You are kidding, right? No I'm not.
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 14:13:54 GMT -6
Children do visit their fathers in prison, young children, adult children...
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 24, 2009 14:19:00 GMT -6
Children do visit their fathers in prison, young children, adult children... Fathers also go to prison for murdering their children so your point is moot. We don't keep violent murderers alive because they need to have their children visit them in prison. I think it would be best for their kids to forget them along with the rest of society.
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Post by somebody on Feb 24, 2009 15:18:09 GMT -6
Children do visit their fathers in prison, young children, adult children... Fathers also go to prison for murdering their children so your point is moot. We don't keep violent murderers alive because they need to have their children visit them in prison. I think it would be best for their kids to forget them along with the rest of society. Moot? We are talking about children who are alive here, not dead, not murdered. And no, this subject is not about the murderers, this is about their children. And, whether you like it or not, children tend to want their parents to be alive. There can be exceptions, of course, but as long as parents don't hurt their children, their children love them and want them to be around.
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