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Israel
Jan 30, 2006 14:40:19 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 30, 2006 14:40:19 GMT -6
Once you hit the 1.6 billion mark, you'll have your 'root cause' of terrorism. Oh come on... if this was a joke, it was a bad one. Don´t forget, it weren´t the muslims who invented terrorism. And though I really don´t like terrorists I have always quite admired Michael Collins. No, I am not talking about the astronaut now... Of course they weren't. But they are the only 'religion' to codify terror as a tenet of faith.
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Israel
Jan 30, 2006 14:13:19 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 30, 2006 14:13:19 GMT -6
Rockets = Peace process? Since when? A forked-tongue farce at that, saying soothingly one thing in English for western consumption and another more vitriolic message in Arabic. Arafat was a master at this. No offence here, but it was only a disappointment to the pie-in-the-sky fools who unfailingly and unquestioningly take terrorists at their word. Now Hamas is going to push through shari'a in the area they control. At this point, I can only hope that Hamas continues the attacks on Israel (which we all know is not that far-fetched, given the statements in the Hamas Charter), and Israel really lets loose the dogs of war, the 'international community' be d*mned. Enough of this pandering to terrorists crap, of searching for the mythical 'root causes' of terrorism, by the UN, the EU, US presidents (since and including Jimmy Carter), elected officials, and the dhimmi press. If this grotesque mockery of an election doesn't prove the stupidity of their position vis-a-vis Israel and the 'Road Map to Perdition', what will? You don´t actually deny that terrorism has root causes, do you? If Israel didn´t occupy Palestinian land, if the people didn´t live in poverty you would hardly find enthusiasm in blasting oneself amd others at a Haifa market. Let´s face it, if life is great and likeable religious fanatism has little chances. The arrogant and simple attitude that terrorism can be defeated by war is not quite intelligent and won´t work. Kill one terrorist and you have another 100 of them standing ready to fight. Kill those 100 and there will be 10000. If we don´t solve the so-called root causes terrorism will never end. Once you hit the 1.6 billion mark, you'll have your 'root cause' of terrorism.
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Israel
Jan 30, 2006 10:55:47 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 30, 2006 10:55:47 GMT -6
And as far as Israel's "participation detinat[ing] a very fragile and explosive situation in the middle East," the detonations have been going off inside Israel for years now thanks to the Intifada, but the world looks the other way, and instread forces a 'Road Map to Perdition' down Israel's throat. At first I was convinced, that this strategy was the right thing to do. Keep Israel out of the conflict to prevent a further destabilization and support the peace process. Rockets = Peace process? Since when? A forked-tongue farce at that, saying soothingly one thing in English for western consumption and another more vitriolic message in Arabic. Arafat was a master at this. No offence here, but it was only a disappointment to the pie-in-the-sky fools who unfailingly and unquestioningly take terrorists at their word. Now Hamas is going to push through shari'a in the area they control. At this point, I can only hope that Hamas continues the attacks on Israel (which we all know is not that far-fetched, given the statements in the Hamas Charter), and Israel really lets loose the dogs of war, the 'international community' be d*mned. Enough of this pandering to terrorists crap, of searching for the mythical 'root causes' of terrorism, by the UN, the EU, US presidents (since and including Jimmy Carter), elected officials, and the dhimmi press. If this grotesque mockery of an election doesn't prove the stupidity of their position vis-a-vis Israel and the 'Road Map to Perdition', what will?
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Israel
Jan 30, 2006 7:11:40 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 30, 2006 7:11:40 GMT -6
"There are many more reasons than the one you cite for us to go into Syria. But Iran is first up. Besides, Israel's close enough, geographically, to Syria to help out."
Rick , the last thing you need is for Isreal to get involved , as I know they would love to, Thier participation will detinate a very fragile and explosive situation in the middle East . Cast you mind back to the first gulf war and all the attempts made by America to contain Isreals involvment .Even during scud attacks. Yes, I remember well the stupidity of that policy. Why should Israel have suffered rocket attacks and not responded, not retaliated? Would France? Would Germany? H*ll, would Canada? And as far as Israel's "participation detinat[ing] a very fragile and explosive situation in the middle East," the detonations have been going off inside Israel for years now thanks to the Intifada, but the world looks the other way, and instread forces a 'Road Map to Perdition' down Israel's throat. Maybe it's just time to allow the Jew hatred of 1.6 billion followers of the 'religion of peace (my @ss)' to take center stage, to have their intractability when it comes to Israel seen by one and all, although it wouldn't change a d*mn thing except for more condemnations of Israel, the only functioning democracy in the entire Middle East.
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Israel
Jan 28, 2006 8:19:04 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 28, 2006 8:19:04 GMT -6
Thus just makes a further mockery of american intelligence. The point is, not just American intelligence. What you are saying is that it was an intelligence failure of all the major intelligence services. What are the odds of everybody being so wrong? And I do mean everybody. Did you even read the whole article? The deception involved with a fellow Ba'athist regime?
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Israel
Jan 28, 2006 8:04:56 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 28, 2006 8:04:56 GMT -6
rick I agree with you. My parents lived through the war and lost members of their families and also watched as their brother and husbands men were marched of to be executed in open graves. I have heard so much about what happens much of which will never be found in any text books. The pain , missery and fear they endured sitting huddled in their homes listening as planes flew above not knowing if the whisting they heard was going to be the last sound they hear.. Sitting and waiting wondering if at any moment their doors will be broken open and a armed soldiers would barge in opening fire on anything thats moves. The sickly sight of people trying to survive where a simple rat became a delecacy, The sounds of screaming women as they are dragged of by soldiers still rings in their heads, there is much much more war . noone can comprehend the true magnitude of what happend unless they were actually there and lived through it. Chamberlain and the league of nations procrastinated while counties were being invaded . So far so good. What? ? ? And I might as well throw out who, when, where, and why, as well. Historically that may be true, but recently? By a democracy of recent date? When one side is ready to kill you, to wage war on you, you pretty much have only two options: A rational response or the French one.
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Israel
Jan 28, 2006 7:13:17 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 28, 2006 7:13:17 GMT -6
When thousands of innocent people are killed by the US it is called colatoral damage and therefore not classed as war crimes interesting.... Why can you not comprehend the definition of war! We were at war and it was us or them! Because these kids have been pretty much spared war their entire lives. They really have no clue what it means to be passive and docile in the face of aggression. They do not comprehend how miserable Jimmy Carter's response to Iran during his presidency actually was, how long the reach of the damage. (I remember quite well my reaction when I heard Carter, early in his term, announce he was banning alcohol in the White House. It was, "Uh-oh." And I was right.) What is happening right now in Afghanistan and Iraq is but a small, very small, finger, like the Little Dutch Boy's, plugging the hole in the dike. With Iran, they became crucial points in an old, but vigorously renewed, vision of an ideological, social, religious, and political domination funded by Saudi petrodollars. To these kids, like myself, they only know WWII from books. I also have my parents, and knew my grandparents. They only read, or hear, the modern truth of liberal analysis, not the true day to day fear that many over the world lived with on a day-to-day basis during the early to mid 20th Century. And the battle for freedom raged with the USSR in the Cold War, cold because it was so much more civil. Not the best thing, but not suicidal. Suicide as a tactic is 180 degrees away from the hero of the liberally inclined, Gandhi. Gandhi had his bad points, his typical British anti-semitism (which was a fact of life for anyone wanting to approach the higher reaches of government, and Gandhi was a lawyer), and his weird obsession with defecation, and studying it. But at least he had "passive resistance," not active 'splodeydope, as both a political and religious philosophical guiding force. But when faced with the suicidal, who care not who you are nor where you die, is very uncivil. And backing down again, and allowing it to grow stronger still, isn't the best way to go. Oftentimes, it really is a matter of 'pay me now or pay me later', with later being always more expensive. It's happened before without us, and it will happen again with us. It's that smple. Now, what are we going to do about it? Pull a Carter, a Chamberlain? For those who read, try out Churchill's The Gathering Storm, a history of what happened when the democracies of Europe were servile and docile to fascism for too long. If anyone were to seriously read local news sources on the web, one would find that things are happening all over the world right now, giving us big clues to the new paradigm. But those are details, which most people find boring. For example do you know why the bulldozing of an over-sized teapot in Malaysia is important to you? How we deal with the situation now is the question. Pay me now or . . . pay me later.
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Israel
Jan 27, 2006 9:19:57 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 27, 2006 9:19:57 GMT -6
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Israel
Jan 27, 2006 9:09:50 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Jan 27, 2006 9:09:50 GMT -6
Only losers are charged : thats correct : nagasaki and hiroshima close to 200,000 died either directly or over time due to associated ilnesses. 95% were civilians women and children that is justified killing I guess. Go peddle your revisionist hogwash somewhere else. Yes, the old 'frabricate evidence' canard. Too bad you can't keep up with the news. www.nysun.com/article/26514Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun. "There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria." Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong." . . . Mr. Sada, 65, told the Sun that the pilots of the two airliners that transported the weapons of mass destruction to Syria from Iraq approached him in the middle of 2004, after Saddam was captured by American troops. "I know them very well. They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends as pilots," Mr. Sada said of the two pilots. He declined to disclose their names, saying they are concerned for their safety. But he said they are now employed by other airlines outside Iraq. The pilots told Mr. Sada that two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, Mr. Sada said. Then Special Republican Guard brigades loaded materials onto the planes, he said, including "yellow barrels with skull and crossbones on each barrel." The pilots said there was also a ground convoy of trucks. The flights - 56 in total, Mr. Sada said - attracted little notice because they were thought to be civilian flights providing relief from Iraq to Syria, which had suffered a flood after a dam collapse in June of 2002. "Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming," Mr. Sada said. "They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians." Mr. Sada said that the Iraqi official responsible for transferring the weapons was a cousin of Saddam Hussein named Ali Hussein al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali." The Syrian official responsible for receiving them was a cousin of Bashar Assad who is known variously as General Abu Ali, Abu Himma, or Zulhimawe. . . . Mr. Sada acknowledged that the disclosures about transfers of weapons of mass destruction are "a very delicate issue." He said he was afraid for his family. "I am sure the terrorists will not like it. The Saddamists will not like it," he said. He thanked the American troops. "They liberated the country and the nation. It is a liberation force. They did a great job," he said. "We have been freed."He said he had not shared his story until now with any American officials. "I kept everything secret in my heart," he said. But he is scheduled to meet next week in Washington with Senators Sessions and Inhofe, Republicans of, respectively, Alabama and Oklahoma. Both are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee. The book also says that on the eve of the first Gulf War, Saddam was planning to use his air force to launch a chemical weapons attack on Israel.When, during an interview with the Sun in April 2004, Vice President Cheney was asked whether he thought that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction had been moved to Syria, Mr. Cheney replied only that he had seen such reports. An article in the Fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that in an appearance on Israel's Channel 2 on December 23, 2002, Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated, "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria." The allegation was denied by the Syrian government at the time as "completely untrue," and it attracted scant American press attention, coming as it did on the eve of the Christmas holiday. The Syrian ruling party and Saddam Hussein had in common the ideology of Baathism, a mixture of Nazism and Marxism. Syria is one of only eight countries that has not signed the Chemical Weapons Convention, a treaty that obligates nations not to stockpile or use chemical weapons. Syria's chemical warfare program, apart from any weapons that may have been received from Iraq, has long been the source of concern to America, Israel, and Lebanon. In March 2004, the director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, saying, "Damascus has an active CW development and testing program that relies on foreign suppliers for key controlled chemicals suitable for producing CW." The CIA's Iraq Survey Group acknowledged in its September 30, 2004, "Comprehensive Report," "we cannot express a firm view on the possibility that WMD elements were relocated out of Iraq prior to the war. Reports of such actions exist, but we have not yet been able to investigate this possibility thoroughly." . . . ------------- So the US gives advance warning to a dictator that we are going to invade, and that dictator takes advantage of that time lag, including all those lovely UN Security Council 'debates' over hard-edged resolutions, by reconfiguring civilian airliners to fly the WMD to a fellow Ba'athist Regime in a neighboring country. Too bad you are too ignorant to connect these dots.
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Israel
Apr 7, 2005 11:41:10 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Apr 7, 2005 11:41:10 GMT -6
I'm afraid this is how people fight when they don't have armies to fight for them. Sheesh! Another one who thinks it's somehow legitimate to blow up pizza parlors and buses. The big hole in lower Manhattan proves otherwise.
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Israel
Apr 1, 2005 7:42:39 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Apr 1, 2005 7:42:39 GMT -6
Felix2, you've been hanging out with your familiy, the IRA terrorists, too much. Your comprehension of posts has dropped considerably from your loving association with them. Time to get a new family, if you can find one who'd take in your sorry, terror loving @ss.
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Israel
Mar 29, 2005 3:29:41 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Mar 29, 2005 3:29:41 GMT -6
which one, the one saying that's ridiculous? Yes, your statement that mine was "ridiculous."
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Israel
Mar 28, 2005 7:42:32 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Mar 28, 2005 7:42:32 GMT -6
I can back up my "ridiculous" statement. Can you back up your even more ridiculous one?
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Israel
Mar 10, 2005 7:39:17 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Mar 10, 2005 7:39:17 GMT -6
and all of unprovoked in any way by Israel supported by Bush and the US? Personally I hope the Palestinians take out Sharan and some of the top guys, then you will see an impact. Ya know, it's really funny. You Euro's made a valiant effort to wipe Jews off the face of Europe 60 or so years ago. Now you side with a culture that is keeping your heritage of wiping Jews off the face of the planet alive. I see the connection. Do you?
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Israel
Mar 3, 2005 17:36:13 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Mar 3, 2005 17:36:13 GMT -6
are you saying they should execute suicide bombers? - presumably the unsuccessful ones? No. I was merely responding to your inane comment as to whether Israel would apply their Crimes Against Humanity statute against themselves because of their actions against the Jordyptians. It is the Jordyptians, themselves, who show no such signs of any humanity. The homicide bombings, sniping at cars, breaking into homes and murdering babies in their sleep, all these 'missions' show my sentiment to be based on an historical fact pattern.
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Israel
Mar 3, 2005 6:10:54 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Mar 3, 2005 6:10:54 GMT -6
I dont suppose Israel will ever apply it for its crimes against the Palestinians? Israel's statute is for Crimes Against Humanity. A society with a culture of suicide bombers doesn't fit my definition of humanity.
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Israel
Nov 19, 2004 11:26:49 GMT -6
Post by RickZ on Nov 19, 2004 11:26:49 GMT -6
Shira,
The only thing I know is that Israel does have the DP for Crimes Against Humanity; Adolf Eichmann has been the only one to suffer the DP in Israel, and was sentenced under that law. Like any country with a military, I'd think they'd have some military statutes which allow for the DP, but that's merely a guess.
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Post by RickZ on Nov 7, 2004 6:48:42 GMT -6
I see, it's better to bomb a country for "humanitary reasons", than trying to get along with illegal immergrants. WTF?!?
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Post by RickZ on Nov 15, 2004 9:41:14 GMT -6
I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong. I'm just saying how our system works. I agree with your argument. I am of the opinion that once one drives to a bar and has the first drink, one has made a conscious choice and is thereafter personally responsible for whatever actions one does, even if it is a DUI accident with a fatality[ies]. The DUI excuse is just that, an excuse. The charge really should be DUIS: Driving Under the Influence of Stupidity, where stupidity is not an excuse.
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Post by RickZ on Oct 23, 2004 7:54:44 GMT -6
Well, lifers are currently housed in a lower security prison, that's right. If LWOP would become the sole punishment for 1st degree murder, this would change in a minute. . . . . . . And be challenged in the courts every step of the way, as is being done now. Without death penalty cases drawing away resources, a much more concerted legal effort would be pursued in order to challenge the very incarceration you concede to be appropriate for these monsters. -------------- Deathstar, Very well said. Thank you.
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Post by RickZ on Oct 14, 2004 11:01:52 GMT -6
I'm sorry I could not find the exact source for 80/20 stat. However, I didn't pull it out of thin air--I spent 3 months in Chicago studying Racism and the Death Penalty and the stat. reflects what I was taught. A point on being 'taught': Would you queston being taught that the sky is green and the seas are orange? This is not merely rhetorical in nature. When it comes to statistics, I always remember the adage: There are lies, d*mned lies, and statistics. My point is that if you did not study and review the empirical data from which the statistics you posited on this board were derived, how can you vouch for their validity? Just because you were taught them? You bring up a point on white victims and black perpetrators. What are the 'statistics' of a black victim and a white perpetrator? Surely that must be in the emipirical data as well. Or was the study of this aspect of our criminal justice system conveniently ignored as not fitting the agenda? Just curious on this, now that you've brought up one side of the issue. Methinks Mr. Bright is full of hyperbole. Appellate issues abound in his statement, and he d*mn well knows this, him being a defense lawyer and all.
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Post by RickZ on Oct 9, 2004 7:16:05 GMT -6
As is, the [death penalty] system is arbitrary and capricious and all executions need to be stopped. Um, is this the basis for your statistics?
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Post by RickZ on Oct 8, 2004 15:17:56 GMT -6
what about the fact that if you're black and you kill a white person there is approx. an 80% chance that you will recieve the death penalty BUT if you are white and you kill a black person there is an 80% chance that you will NOT recieve the death penalty I would be interested in a link from which you got your statistics. You have also neglected to mention that the majority of serial killers are white males. Some exceptions are Lee Malvo, John Mohammed, Wayne Williams, and Eileen Wuarnos (who has been executed). I don't want serial killers, of any color, to play the legal system and get away with multiple murders. Also, how do you account for the high percentage of black on black crime, including gang violence? Are those murder victims to be ignored because the perpetrators are black?
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Post by RickZ on Feb 27, 2006 18:12:12 GMT -6
johnbgraf: simple answer: I don't like men who kill. Usama; I don't like him, but I look up to him for his staying power. You think the goats and camels are going to complain about his "staying power"?
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Post by RickZ on Feb 27, 2006 6:15:53 GMT -6
Usama is still alive. Or do you have any other information? Bush is still alive. For information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama you'll get a reward of $ 25 Million. For information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Bush you'll get NOTHING. Have a look at: www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=480in fact Bush is a serial killer, he kills/killed in his own country and in many other countries. But he is mentally retarded. He is only the pawn in a game. He smoked too much weed during his teenager years. There are a lot of mentally retarded on DR. And I think he would be best placed there. I just love to read the self-righteous spewings of liberal morons. So full of, uhm, logic. Yeah, that's the word.
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Post by RickZ on Feb 27, 2006 6:14:14 GMT -6
It would be my pleasure to wack Usama for nothing. 671 grains of diplomacy will get the job done.1 shot 1 kill. Where's Seargent Hathc*ck when you need him?
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Post by RickZ on Oct 23, 2004 7:42:27 GMT -6
Death Penalty,
I think you should volunteer for lethal injection, and write a "report" on it in order to tell us ALL about it. First hand experience would make a great "report," and you must know how inportant it is to share this personal account. Just like Mumia.
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Post by RickZ on Apr 4, 2008 12:06:07 GMT -6
I do applaud your utter disgust at the way these officals have escaped what in my view amounts to possible attempted murder. No 'possible' about it. They lied and put a man on death row. They tried to kill him, or rather use the state to do so.
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Post by RickZ on Apr 4, 2008 12:03:19 GMT -6
Did anything happen to the officers who lied? I know they have both left the police department. Is there a statute of limtations on perjury? Ray The hell with perjury charges. These 'officers' should have been charged with attempted murder.
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Post by RickZ on Mar 5, 2008 10:14:52 GMT -6
Nope and dont care to. 26 years on Death Row, You lot must be very proud of your justice system. If a bloke kills someone in a state with the DP surely it doesnt take 26 years to ensure that the facts are right and the evidence watertight. Its sick. Truely inspirational. Im actually quite shocked. Yet another reason why i cant and want support the DP. Shame on your justice system. Yeah, and if we took 'em out back of the courthouse and shot 'em right after sentencing, you'd be beyotching about that, too.
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