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Post by hawg on Apr 1, 2019 21:28:49 GMT -6
Ok, I can't quite wrap my head around this one. I've read several articles recently about the religious rights of condemned prisoners during execution. none of the articles seem to make much sense. an article today was about supreme court justices arguing privately over the issue. their argument didn't seem at all to be about the constitutionality of the death penalty but rather allowing the prisoners 'shaman', 'witchdoctor, 'medicineman' or 'clergy' of choice to hold his hand essentially during execution. not allowing this is a violation of his constitutional rights. seems to me that immediately following 'ready, aim, fire ALL of a persons rights are sort of quickly made null and void anyway, no?
being a bona fide gun nut clinger, perhaps at my execution i'll demand my second amendment right to hold my favorite revolver during execution. i'd love to hear ginsburgs take on that. aahh, the world we've allowed.
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Post by oslooskar on Apr 2, 2019 4:06:23 GMT -6
Ok, I can't quite wrap my head around this one. I've read several articles recently about the religious rights of condemned prisoners during execution. none of the articles seem to make much sense. an article today was about supreme court justices arguing privately over the issue. their argument didn't seem at all to be about the constitutionality of the death penalty but rather allowing the prisoners 'shaman', 'witchdoctor, 'medicineman' or 'clergy' of choice to hold his hand essentially during execution. not allowing this is a violation of his constitutional rights. seems to me that immediately following 'ready, aim, fire ALL of a persons rights are sort of quickly made null and void anyway, no? being a bona fide gun nut clinger, perhaps at my execution i'll demand my second amendment right to hold my favorite revolver during execution. i'd love to hear ginsburgs take on that. aahh, the world we've allowed. Who's going to be dumb enough to hold the hand of a condemned murderer who is sitting in the electric chair?
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Post by hawg on Apr 3, 2019 11:36:06 GMT -6
well we'd like to believe that, but ever hear the phrase " 'bamavotin' stupid"?
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Post by oslooskar on Apr 5, 2019 10:38:14 GMT -6
ever hear the phrase " 'bamavotin' stupid"? NO, but I did warn friends and family members not to vote for him.
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Post by hawg on Apr 5, 2019 10:56:32 GMT -6
ok, so did they listen to you? or are they the people you ask about holding the hand of an inmate during electrocution?
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Post by oslooskar on Apr 5, 2019 22:40:17 GMT -6
ok, so did they listen to you? or are they the people you ask about holding the hand of an inmate during electrocution? Some of them listened to me and some of them didn't. Unfortunately, however, most of the people I've come across, at least in the San Francisco Bay Area, were all too willing to hold the hand of a tyrant, albeit dressed in sheep's clothing, while he was in office for eight years. In fact, I was shocked at the lack of outrage at Obama's signing of the National Defense Authorization Act.
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Post by hawg on Apr 6, 2019 10:17:40 GMT -6
but, but, but....he's black. aren't we soooo enlightened.
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Post by oslooskar on Apr 7, 2019 21:03:14 GMT -6
but, but, but....he's black. aren't we soooo enlightened. That's part of the problem on the east and west coasts. You have people voting for a particular candidate based solely on that candidate's race or gender---------never mind his, or her, political qualifications. The future looks glum because once the democrats manage to get rid of the Electoral College those airheads will be imposing their nonsense on the rest of the country. AND, when that happens, and I think it will, the United States will breakup as different states find ways to secede from the Union and go their own way.
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Post by hawg on Apr 8, 2019 10:43:45 GMT -6
but, but, but....he's black. aren't we soooo enlightened. That's part of the problem on the east and west coasts. You have people voting for a particular candidate based solely on that candidate's race or gender---------never mind his, or her, political qualifications. The future looks glum because once the democrats manage to get rid of the Electoral College those airheads will be imposing their nonsense on the rest of the country. AND, when that happens, and I think it will, the United States will breakup as different states find ways to secede from the Union and go their own way. cannot disagree.
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Post by dudleysharp on Sept 3, 2019 7:44:25 GMT -6
Ok, I can't quite wrap my head around this one. I've read several articles recently about the religious rights of condemned prisoners during execution. none of the articles seem to make much sense. an article today was about supreme court justices arguing privately over the issue. their argument didn't seem at all to be about the constitutionality of the death penalty but rather allowing the prisoners 'shaman', 'witchdoctor, 'medicineman' or 'clergy' of choice to hold his hand essentially during execution. not allowing this is a violation of his constitutional rights. seems to me that immediately following 'ready, aim, fire ALL of a persons rights are sort of quickly made null and void anyway, no? being a bona fide gun nut clinger, perhaps at my execution i'll demand my second amendment right to hold my favorite revolver during execution. i'd love to hear ginsburgs take on that. aahh, the world we've allowed. ==== The issue is not holding one religion over the other, that being having a Christian adviser, but, not having a religious adviser of another faith, available. The solution is, no adviser, at all, at the execution.
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