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Post by hawg on Jul 18, 2018 10:12:57 GMT -6
When your battery goes dead do you scrap your whole car or replace the battery? No, we need to make them relevant, purposeful, and moral. For starters, make them quick and make them public. Cars actually serve a decent purpose. The death penalty doesn't, and never has - and should have died years ago. Uhh, no decent purpose? Ted Bundy isn't any causing problems anymore is he? Bamavoters, whaddya do?
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Post by oslooskar on Jul 19, 2018 2:33:26 GMT -6
Cars actually serve a decent purpose. The death penalty doesn't, and never has - and should have died years ago. If one is to accept such claim of yours to be true he would have to believe that none of the thousands of executed murderers would have ever killed again had they not been executed.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 20, 2018 14:44:48 GMT -6
Pretty any politician claiming to support capital punishment. The desuetude of the death penalty has everything to do with the moral authority lost in foolish attempts to sanitize killing and make executions more palatable.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 20, 2018 14:47:23 GMT -6
I may be wrong fug, I believe the point Joe makes is execute all who murder or none of them. Or explain to murder victims how some of their murderers deserve leniency, while others do not.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jul 20, 2018 14:57:10 GMT -6
I may be wrong fug, I believe the point Joe makes is execute all who murder or none of them. Or explain to murder victims how some of their murderers deserve leniency, while others do not. Because it is not about the victims, it is about the killer themselves?
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 20, 2018 15:53:33 GMT -6
If executions are irrelevant, desultory and without a moral purpose - how about just scrapping them altogether? For all intents and purposes, that has already happened.
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Post by fuglyville on Jul 20, 2018 18:36:28 GMT -6
If executions are irrelevant, desultory and without a moral purpose - how about just scrapping them altogether? For all intents and purposes, that has already happened. Which, obviously, is a good thing. It needs to be stopped completely, but that doesn’t seem to be too far away.
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Post by hawg on Jul 20, 2018 19:57:45 GMT -6
For all intents and purposes, that has already happened. Which, obviously, is a good thing. It needs to be stopped completely, but that doesn’t seem to be too far away. Fugly's motto in life: "kill babies, not murderers". 'Bama be proud.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jul 20, 2018 20:10:03 GMT -6
Which, obviously, is a good thing. It needs to be stopped completely, but that doesn’t seem to be too far away. Fugly's motto in life: "kill babies, not murderers". 'Bama be proud. Abortions not so bad, just think if it had been Bama, Hilliarary or Billy blow. Seems many dead bodies were around the Clintoons.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jul 20, 2018 20:18:13 GMT -6
For all intents and purposes, that has already happened. Which, obviously, is a good thing. It needs to be stopped completely, but that doesn’t seem to be too far away. That's twisted fug, yes on abortion ( executed) not for murderers.
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Post by deathcub2000 on Aug 28, 2018 21:48:41 GMT -6
What about leveling the playing field between murderer and murdered? In Connecticut (and most states I suspect) if the killer gets life without parole, he gets in a two man cell, can go in the yard, work and make money and have contact visits. If the murdered dies in Connecticut...well, they get buried or scattered if cremated. The murdered has no contact visits, can't make money, etc. So where it the equality in that? I read somewhere (perhaps here) that a request for clemency included the fact that the murderers children would never see the killer again. Who cares if the victim's children get to see the murdered again. I really think that if a murderer's sentence gets commuted to life without parole, then they go into a cell without human contact. This would make it somewhat even without the death penalty. And for you who scream about civilized nations doing this, what about Eric Scott who beat, stomped, sexually assaulted and strangled his victim . She bore numerous bruises and lacerations, both eyes were swollen shut” the justices wrote. Where is the civility in this? www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/22/three-executions-slated-thursday-florida-alabama-texas/365901002/
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Post by ruger57fanboy on Jan 29, 2021 0:15:58 GMT -6
Anesthetized machinegunning. Give them them a handful of morphine pills and their choice of a pop. When it kicks in, da da da-time. The condemned is there to be destroyed for the public safety. Their suffering by using hanging and cruel methods only breeds sympathy for those whom donot deserve it.
I also support nitrogen gas as a painless execution form, too. Public executions? I don't want somebody walking out of a heart disease clinic to stroke out when they see the guillotine drop across the street, too. Instead, object lesson time. Line the convicts up in a prison yard. Cover them with machineguns. Announce the name and crime of the condemned over the P.A. and then machinegun them dead in front of the convicts. That is genuine deterrence for first time offenders.
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Post by VA Justice on Apr 25, 2021 23:54:28 GMT -6
No state has yet come forward with a workable protocol and equipment for conducting an execution by nitrogen hypoxia.
Oklahoma made a commitment to developing a protocol in 2015 when they announced they were going to go forward with it as their primary method. However, they ran into the problem of not being able to find any company willing to supply them the equipment necessary for the execution (e.g. a tank, mask etc) nor any supplier for the nitrogen gas. AirGas, the major supplier of bottled gases to the state of Oklahoma government, explicitly told the state they would not sell them nitrogen if it were to be used in nitrogen executions.
So, five years later, Oklahoma gave up and switched back to lethal injection as their primary method once they identified a new compounding pharmacy to serve as a secret supplier.
Alabama made some motions to prepare for nitrogen hypoxia, establishing a three year secretive consultant contract with an industrial safety firm in Tennessee in 2018. However, that contract, believed to be for expert testimony regarding anticipated litigation on hypoxia is soon to lapse. I believe Alabama was waiting on Oklahoma to break the ice with a design for a machine and a protocol for hypoxia and then they would follow their lead. As Oklahoma has apparently stopped in its tracks on development, so has Alabama.
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Post by VA Justice on Dec 16, 2023 14:24:21 GMT -6
The state of Alabama has set an execution date of January 25, 2024 for inmate Kenneth Smith to be carried out by nitrogen hypoxia. It will be the first ever use of this method as a means of execution. The plan is for Smith to be strapped to the lethal injection gurney in the death chamber and then have an airtight mask with a tube connected to it affixed over his nose and mouth. The flow of oxygenated air will be changed to pure nitrogen by the warden in another room behind the chamber. The nitrogen will flow through the tube and into the mask for a period of fifteen minutes or until five minutes after the EKG attached to Smith shows flatline.
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