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Post by fuglyville on Nov 11, 2015 13:09:26 GMT -6
States has turned to extraordinary measures for the sake of killing people. Considering the amount of better things those funds could have been used for - such as preventing crime from happening in the first place - is it really worth it? Is seeing people die really that awesome?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 14:28:10 GMT -6
Think about this. It's none of your dam business. You live in Norway, nothing we do here affects you at all.
Now to the questions you have decided to put upon us. They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. Like I said before, CREATE A SITUATION AND THEN BYTCH ABOUT THE SITUATION YOU CREATED." IOW, it's people like you that have created all of this crap. SO STFU.
Is seeing people murdered and absolutely no consequences for the ones that murder, REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHY? Is it because your panties get wet over murderers??? Is seeing innocent people murdered really all that awesome? Is your agenda that important that innocent people are brutally murdered?
Btw, if you would get your way and the DP would be outlawed. The first horrendous murder, the people would be voting the DP back in. Get it, we can do that here. We are not controlled by the UN or the EU or whatever other idiots are controlling you.
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Post by fuglyville on Nov 11, 2015 16:23:03 GMT -6
Think about this. It's none of your dam business. You live in Norway, nothing we do here affects you at all. Now to the questions you have decided to put upon us. They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. Like I said before, CREATE A SITUATION AND THEN BYTCH ABOUT THE SITUATION YOU CREATED." IOW, it's people like you that have created all of this crap. SO STFU. Is seeing people murdered and absolutely no consequences for the ones that murder, REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHY? Is it because your panties get wet over murderers??? Is seeing innocent people murdered really all that awesome? Is your agenda that important that innocent people are brutally murdered? Btw, if you would get your way and the DP would be outlawed. The first horrendous murder, the people would be voting the DP back in. Get it, we can do that here. We are not controlled by the UN or the EU or whatever other idiots are controlling you. I guess I'm part fascinated, and part scared by how people such as yourself can balance being intelligent and decent people with being cruel, vicious, heartless monsters. And yes, the U.S. is its own boss - which is why it's one of the most thoroughly *screwed*-up countries in the history of mankind.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 11, 2015 17:06:52 GMT -6
Think about this. It's none of your dam business. You live in Norway, nothing we do here affects you at all. Now to the questions you have decided to put upon us. They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. Like I said before, CREATE A SITUATION AND THEN BYTCH ABOUT THE SITUATION YOU CREATED." IOW, it's people like you that have created all of this crap. SO STFU. Is seeing people murdered and absolutely no consequences for the ones that murder, REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHY? Is it because your panties get wet over murderers??? Is seeing innocent people murdered really all that awesome? Is your agenda that important that innocent people are brutally murdered? Btw, if you would get your way and the DP would be outlawed. The first horrendous murder, the people would be voting the DP back in. Get it, we can do that here. We are not controlled by the UN or the EU or whatever other idiots are controlling you. . And yes, the U.S. is its own boss - which is why it's one of the most thoroughly *screwed*-up countries in the history of mankind. Yeah until you need us. MY my my, feel the hate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 19:20:05 GMT -6
Think about this. It's none of your dam business. You live in Norway, nothing we do here affects you at all. Now to the questions you have decided to put upon us. They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. Like I said before, CREATE A SITUATION AND THEN BYTCH ABOUT THE SITUATION YOU CREATED." IOW, it's people like you that have created all of this crap. SO STFU. Is seeing people murdered and absolutely no consequences for the ones that murder, REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHY? Is it because your panties get wet over murderers??? Is seeing innocent people murdered really all that awesome? Is your agenda that important that innocent people are brutally murdered? Btw, if you would get your way and the DP would be outlawed. The first horrendous murder, the people would be voting the DP back in. Get it, we can do that here. We are not controlled by the UN or the EU or whatever other idiots are controlling you. I guess I'm part fascinated, and part scared by how people such as yourself can balance being intelligent and decent people with being cruel, vicious, heartless monsters. And yes, the U.S. is its own boss - which is why it's one of the most thoroughly *screwed*-up countries in the history of mankind. Fugly, you never answered any of my questions. It seems you are cruel, vicious, heartless monster to victims and their family but then you only want to put the blame on everyone else. You think you are more intelligent than others BUT the fact is that you were found out a liar within 2 weeks of your arrival here. So, just how smart are you? Btw, I really think that you are the same person that has been here many times and been sent off with your tail between your legs. You are just angry that people won't bow to what you think is your superiority.
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Post by Californian on Nov 11, 2015 19:27:39 GMT -6
I'm fascinated by a Euroweenie who lives thousands of miles from the U.S. in a socialist paradise populated by all pale people who surfs the Atlantic on the 'net to comment on another country's justice system. As if we care.
I understand your dump is importing a Muzzie problem. Good luck to you with that. When you're wearing a burka and decide to dial the same 911 the rest of the world does when the brown stuff hits the fan, expect to be put on hold. Forever.
Oh, yeah, "cruel, vicious, heartless monsters." That' us, all right. Guess that's why our borders are overwhelmed with people who don't seem to care that, very occasionally, we whack a vicious a-hole who richly deserves it.
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Post by bernard on Nov 12, 2015 1:36:38 GMT -6
They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. If they didn't take those extraordinary measures, if they abolished all the appeals and killed the person right after the trial, it wouldn't be long before they killed an innocent. And when that happened, when soft focus pictures of the innocent man with his family and cuddling his dog were all over FOX, NBC, CBS and CNN, when his daughters were crying on Good Morning America and youtube and his story is all over social media, that will be the end of the dp. All those appeals are there to make sure that never happens, and so its defenders can say "we took every precaution". In other words, they are there not to please the antis, but to protect the dp from the antis.
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Post by oslooskar on Nov 12, 2015 3:42:42 GMT -6
And yes, the U.S. is its own boss - which is why it's one of the most thoroughly *screwed*-up countries in the history of mankind. Apparently your knowledge of history, the United States, and the world around you is extremely limited. Perhaps it might be in your own best interest for you to read something besides Norwegian newspapers and do some traveling abroad for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 10:03:02 GMT -6
They have to take extraordinary measures because of the likes of you. None of this would be happening if it wasn't for radical antis doing whatever they can to fu(k the system up. If they didn't take those extraordinary measures, if they abolished all the appeals and killed the person right after the trial, it wouldn't be long before they killed an innocent. And when that happened, when soft focus pictures of the innocent man with his family and cuddling his dog were all over FOX, NBC, CBS and CNN, when his daughters were crying on Good Morning America and youtube and his story is all over social media, that will be the end of the dp. All those appeals are there to make sure that never happens, and so its defenders can say "we took every precaution". In other words, they are there not to please the antis, but to protect the dp from the antis. I know why they have to have the appeals BUT the last minute appeals are completely ridiculous. John Penry comes to mind. How many of these mutts say they have mental illness or are mentally retarded? We all know this is BS but they get to do it anyway and in the Penry case he did the acting retarded well enough and he did get off DR but right after admitted that he wasn't really retarded. He actually was quite proud of the deception. You do have the scenario right, though. Even when they are guilty, they prance the family pics out there. They will get a child to cry for them, even though they didn't even care about their family etc etc. Does anyone realize how this makes the people that loved the victim feel? How devastating this is for another family? HELL NO they don't. Everyone is too busy trying to make themselves feel so good about themselves by jumping on the save a murderer band wagon. It is disgusting. It is also cruel, vicious and heartless. I just wanted people to know this and maybe they would think before saying that the victims' families were cruel, vicious and heartless. No one will know how this feels unless they have a loved one murdered and then are condemned by a group for things that are entirely out of their control.
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Post by Californian on Nov 12, 2015 13:14:22 GMT -6
"mutts...." AAAHAHAhahahahaha! How perfectly descriptive.
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Post by bernard on Nov 12, 2015 14:28:36 GMT -6
If they didn't take those extraordinary measures, if they abolished all the appeals and killed the person right after the trial, it wouldn't be long before they killed an innocent. And when that happened, when soft focus pictures of the innocent man with his family and cuddling his dog were all over FOX, NBC, CBS and CNN, when his daughters were crying on Good Morning America and youtube and his story is all over social media, that will be the end of the dp. All those appeals are there to make sure that never happens, and so its defenders can say "we took every precaution". In other words, they are there not to please the antis, but to protect the dp from the antis. I know why they have to have the appeals BUT the last minute appeals are completely ridiculous. John Penry comes to mind. How many of these mutts say they have mental illness or are mentally retarded? We all know this is BS but they get to do it anyway and in the Penry case he did the acting retarded well enough and he did get off DR but right after admitted that he wasn't really retarded. He actually was quite proud of the deception. It is the antis, yes, who will be the first to complain that the state is executing people with cognitive disabilities. The pros realize that this makes the dp look bad, so to defend it they introduce yet another new way of appealing. That way they can say that they took every precaution not to execute someone with a cognitive disability, even allowing last minute appeals. Can you blame that on the antis? Another appeal wasn't what the antis really wanted. But I suppose you could look at it either way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 16:21:19 GMT -6
I know why they have to have the appeals BUT the last minute appeals are completely ridiculous. John Penry comes to mind. How many of these mutts say they have mental illness or are mentally retarded? We all know this is BS but they get to do it anyway and in the Penry case he did the acting retarded well enough and he did get off DR but right after admitted that he wasn't really retarded. He actually was quite proud of the deception. It is the antis, yes, who will be the first to complain that the state is executing people with cognitive disabilities. The pros realize that this makes the dp look bad, so to defend it they introduce yet another new way of appealing. That way they can say that they took every precaution not to execute someone with a cognitive disability, even allowing last minute appeals. Can you blame that on the antis? Another appeal wasn't what the antis really wanted. But I suppose you could look at it either way. [/quote Sorry hit the wrong button again. I didn't mean to hit like, meant to hit quote. I guess you could say that but then what came first the chicken or the egg? The antis complain and bytch enough so that in order to get the job done, the government puts in another appeal so that they look like they're doing something. Oh I get it. It should just be" SHUT UP AND QUIT YOUR WHINING". It's just as effective and cuts through all the BS. You would think as in the case of Penry, the fact that he went back to kill his victim so she wouldn't tell them who did it, would have been sufficient enough to prove that he wasn't retarded. Penry sitting on one of those morning shows thanking them for his coworing book and crawons, should have been proof right there. People that are truly retarded don't thank anyone for a gift without prompting. They show their appreciation by opening up the book and coloring. People still surrounded Penry with support, toys and tears. Not one of these good people ever apologized to the vitim's family for being deceived and supporting this psycho. NOT A ONE....
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 12, 2015 16:33:01 GMT -6
It is the antis, yes, who will be the first to complain that the state is executing people with cognitive disabilities. The pros realize that this makes the dp look bad, so to defend it they introduce yet another new way of appealing. That way they can say that they took every precaution not to execute someone with a cognitive disability, even allowing last minute appeals. Can you blame that on the antis? Another appeal wasn't what the antis really wanted. But I suppose you could look at it either way. [/quote Sorry hit the wrong button again. I didn't mean to hit like, meant to hit quote. I guess you could say that but then what came first the chicken or the egg? The antis complain and bytch enough so that in order to get the job done, the government puts in another appeal so that they look like they're doing something. Oh I get it. It should just be" SHUT UP AND QUIT YOUR WHINING". It's just as effective and cuts through all the BS. You would think as in the case of Penry, the fact that he went back to kill his victim so she wouldn't tell them who did it, would have been sufficient enough to prove that he wasn't retarded. Penry sitting on one of those morning shows thanking them for his coworing book and crawons, should have been proof right there. People that are truly retarded don't thank anyone for a gift without prompting. They show their appreciation by opening up the book and coloring. People still surrounded Penry with support, toys and tears. Not one of these good people ever apologized to the vitim's family for being deceived and supporting this psycho. NOT A ONE.... Greggsmom, if you Hit like again" on the post you did not mean to, it will remove the like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 16:33:43 GMT -6
I'll PM you to find out how. Thanks
I guess you already told me how. Forgive me... This time of year is a little crazy and I guess it is catchy.
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Post by bernard on Nov 12, 2015 18:05:54 GMT -6
It is the antis, yes, who will be the first to complain that the state is executing people with cognitive disabilities. The pros realize that this makes the dp look bad, so to defend it they introduce yet another new way of appealing. That way they can say that they took every precaution not to execute someone with a cognitive disability, even allowing last minute appeals. Can you blame that on the antis? Another appeal wasn't what the antis really wanted. But I suppose you could look at it either way. Sorry hit the wrong button again. I didn't mean to hit like, meant to hit quote. You try to hide how much you like me, but it slips out anyway. I understand. Yes that's right. I don't really care if he was faking or not because I don't have much sympathy for the mental incompetence defense. I haven't seen any evidence that being clinically stupid is a good excuse for being vicious. My dog is stupider than any human---even the idiots who commit murder---but she has a wonderful temperament.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 12, 2015 18:32:41 GMT -6
Sorry hit the wrong button again. I didn't mean to hit like, meant to hit quote. You try to hide how much you like me, but it slips out anyway. I understand. Yes that's right. I don't really care if he was faking or not because I don't have much sympathy for the mental incompetence defense. I haven't seen any evidence that being clinically stupid is a good excuse for being vicious. My dog is stupider than any human---even the idiots who commit murder---but she has a wonderful temperament. When one thinks dogs are stupid, it is the human who is really the stupid one.
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Post by bernard on Nov 12, 2015 18:49:32 GMT -6
When one thinks dogs are stupid, it is the human who is really the stupid one. Claiming that some humans are stupider than dogs isn't quite stupid enough to prove that some humans are stupider than dogs. But I admit it helps your case.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2015 15:00:17 GMT -6
You try to hide how much you like me, but it slips out anyway. I understand. I wonder why?
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Post by bernard on Nov 13, 2015 21:50:11 GMT -6
I wonder why? Because it's a dog.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2015 22:33:27 GMT -6
I wonder why? Because it's a dog. Your personality would make your dog appear stupid. Trying to force & conquer. Which is effecting the behavior & it's intellectual potential. Has the same effect with young humans too.
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Post by oslooskar on Nov 14, 2015 3:26:06 GMT -6
When one thinks dogs are stupid, it is the human who is really the stupid one. Dogs aren't really that smart. It took me three years to teach my Cousin's dog how to play checkers.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 14, 2015 9:39:30 GMT -6
When one thinks dogs are stupid, it is the human who is really the stupid one. Dogs aren't really that smart. It took me three years to teach my Cousin's dog how to play checkers. My dogs got bored with checkers & went to the next tier, to chess.
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Post by bernard on Nov 14, 2015 15:18:06 GMT -6
Dogs aren't really that smart. It took me three years to teach my Cousin's dog how to play checkers. My dogs got bored with checkers & went to the next tier, to chess. Great discussion we're having here. Woof woof.
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Post by oslooskar on Nov 15, 2015 14:16:31 GMT -6
Great discussion we're having here. Woof woof. Sounds like you're going to the dogs.
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Post by fuglyville on Nov 21, 2015 15:28:15 GMT -6
Given that people have ended up with barking, I guess we can conclude that the death penalty is as pointless as this discussion.
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Post by Californian on Nov 21, 2015 17:39:04 GMT -6
Given that people have ended up with barking, I guess we can conclude that the death penalty is as pointless as this discussion. ...but the barking still isn't as irrelevant as the opinions of a Euroweenie scumpal.
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Post by bernard on Nov 21, 2015 19:04:01 GMT -6
Given that people have ended up with barking, I guess we can conclude that the death penalty is as pointless as this discussion. Setting aside the nonsense, the gist of the discussion is that pros are prepared to spend a lot of money granting arbitrarily many appeals to DR inmates rather than risk executing an innocent or a person with a cognitive impediment. That's laudable, but it would be better to do away with the DP entirely and spend the money on stopping crimes happening in the first place. I'm calling this one for the antis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 14:52:41 GMT -6
Given that people have ended up with barking, I guess we can conclude that the death penalty is as pointless as this discussion. Oh fugly, you screwed up nasty little scumpal. The DP isn't pointless. This thread is. who started it anway? That's right it was you. Thread and fugly completely pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 14:55:22 GMT -6
Given that people have ended up with barking, I guess we can conclude that the death penalty is as pointless as this discussion. Setting aside the nonsense, the gist of the discussion is that pros are prepared to spend a lot of money granting arbitrarily many appeals to DR inmates rather than risk executing an innocent or a person with a cognitive impediment. That's laudable, but it would be better to do away with the DP entirely and spend the money on stopping crimes happening in the first place. I'm calling this one for the antis. bernard, who died and made you boss?? You can't declare your side the winner. No one asked who won and no one appointed a referee. SO?? IOW, you're not the boss of any of us.
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Post by bernard on Nov 22, 2015 16:08:32 GMT -6
Setting aside the nonsense, the gist of the discussion is that pros are prepared to spend a lot of money granting arbitrarily many appeals to DR inmates rather than risk executing an innocent or a person with a cognitive impediment. That's laudable, but it would be better to do away with the DP entirely and spend the money on stopping crimes happening in the first place. I'm calling this one for the antis. bernard, who died and made you boss?? You can't declare your side the winner. No one asked who won and no one appointed a referee. SO?? IOW, you're not the boss of any of us. Says you. But since when do you get to decide who is and isn't boss? Did someone die and make you boss of bosses?
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