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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 1, 2011 17:56:41 GMT -6
When I was in Huntsville, I was extremely offended by radical antis with bull horns, yelling lies and accusing others, not the condemned, of course, or murder. They were coarsened by their opposition. I would have found it just as offensive, if the pros I were with were chanting "fry the bastard". To me Agaveman, it seems you're gloating, and once again, the murder, and not the victim, is the center of attention. I am gloating. No doubt, antis would have gloated if Davis had been spared. Regardless, what's wrong with gloating over the successful administration of justice? Were the allies wrong to dance in the streets after defeating the Nazis given that millions of innocent victims died in the Holocaust? Could'nt you picture a protest group protesting agains't" the millions dancing in the streets glad about defeating a mass murderer. That would be aburd.............
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Post by Kay on Oct 1, 2011 18:08:50 GMT -6
When I was in Huntsville, I was extremely offended by radical antis with bull horns, yelling lies and accusing others, not the condemned, of course, or murder. They were coarsened by their opposition. I would have found it just as offensive, if the pros I were with were chanting "fry the bastard". To me Agaveman, it seems you're gloating, and once again, the murder, and not the victim, is the center of attention. I am gloating. No doubt, antis would have gloated if Davis had been spared. Regardless, what's wrong with gloating over the successful administration of justice? Given that millions of innocent victims died in the Holocaust, were the Allies wrong to dance in the streets and rub it in a bit after defeating the Nazis? Thanks for an honest answer So killing murderers, in your mind, is a celebratory occasion, justice hard won, achieved after over two decades. To me, and perhaps, it's because of my opposition, I see it as a tragedy, a young man, Officer McPhail, dead, because without a murder, we have no execution. Nothing in my mind to celebrate.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Oct 1, 2011 18:25:58 GMT -6
I am gloating. No doubt, antis would have gloated if Davis had been spared. Regardless, what's wrong with gloating over the successful administration of justice? Given that millions of innocent victims died in the Holocaust, were the Allies wrong to dance in the streets and rub it in a bit after defeating the Nazis? Thanks for an honest answer So killing murderers, in your mind, is a celebratory occasion, justice hard won, achieved after over two decades. To me, and perhaps, it's because of my opposition, I see it as a tragedy, a young man, Officer McPhail, dead, because without a murder, we have no execution. Nothing in my mind to celebrate. It is a hard fought battle, especially in Troy Davis' case where there were so MANY appeals. I am also careful about using named victims when discussing the DP. I do that not out of disregard for the victims, but rather out of respect. See, when I discuss the DP, I am usually promoting an agenda, and it would seem wrong to use the name or image of a particular murder victim to garner emotional sympathy for an agenda that the victim might have opposed. It is thus easier for me to focus more on the murderers than the victims when I post here.
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Post by Kay on Oct 1, 2011 18:31:38 GMT -6
Thanks for an honest answer So killing murderers, in your mind, is a celebratory occasion, justice hard won, achieved after over two decades. To me, and perhaps, it's because of my opposition, I see it as a tragedy, a young man, Officer McPhail, dead, because without a murder, we have no execution. Nothing in my mind to celebrate. It is a hard fought battle, especially in Troy Davis' case where there were so MANY appeals. I am also careful about using named victims when discussing the DP. I do that not out of disregard for the victims, but rather out of respect. See, when I discuss the DP, I am usually promoting an agenda, and it would seem wrong to use the name or image of a particular murder victim to garner emotional sympathy for an agenda that the victim might have opposed. It is thus easier for me to focus more on the murderers than the victims when I post here. Thanks, that makes sense. For me, I unable to separate the victim from the execution, but then I'm not a radical like you
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Post by Californian on Oct 2, 2011 21:27:29 GMT -6
By the way, dare I ask what IYKWIMAITYD, or do I not want to know. "If you know what I mean, and I think you do."
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Post by arizonavet on Oct 4, 2011 7:42:31 GMT -6
Interesting, especially as I like to live the examined life. Can you unpack that a bit with a few more words (doesn't have to be 1000)? When I was in Huntsville, I was extremely offended by radical antis with bull horns, yelling lies and accusing others, not the condemned, of course, or murder. They were coarsened by their opposition. I would have found it just as offensive, if the pros I were with were chanting "fry the bastard". To me Agaveman, it seems you're gloating, and once again, the murder, and not the victim, is the center of attention. You went to an execution Kay?....whose? As you no doubt remember, I attended Robert Comers (outside the prison)... The (Catholic) anti's were downright friendly & respectfull. One, even came over & conversed with me. They had a crowd, I was alone. By the end of the execution time....there were several standing with me. I agree with you, if any of those who joined me started yelling ANYTHING...I would have moved away. I was proud of Arizona & Arizonan's that day....the state did what was right...so did the activists, on both sides. I do understand Agaveman too though....these monsters create a ton of anger & pure hatred. Totally understandable. We must remember....family's weep uncontrollably when their relatives are sentenced to LWOP also.
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