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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 13:59:05 GMT -6
I was searching around the net to see what JBS was talking about, and one post shows this scum bag is believed to have been involved in another unsolved murder! Anyone know about that? The person posting claims herself to be the mother of the victim's best friend. woods ordered his gang to take their friend Beau Sanders on a road trip and murder him. This was just after Beau had fired one of the gang who was working for him in the internet/coffee shop he managed, fired that person when he caught them stealing from the store - so it is thought he ordered Beau's murder for revenge for that firing. Woods' gang drove woods' car and used woods' shotgun to murder Beau in the desert in Southern California while on the road trip. This was a couple of months before woods murdered Bethena and Ron himself. So IMO woods would also be eligible for the DP in CA, since he ordered that murder and provided the transport and weapon. This is why I say his execution is justice for Bethena and Ron and Beau ETA: They found poor Beau's body that fall 2001 or the next spring 2002, I believe, but I am sure it was after they were investigating Beth and Ron's murder. Prior to that, Beau was listed as missing. I don't know of any other unsolved murders, but I would be suspicious if anyone woods had been around were missing. Pure EVIL! I think this is the case the lady was talking about. She didn't mention names as I recall but she did say something about her son's friend missing for some time. Time to step on this bug! & Good Ridence!
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Post by Rev. Agave on Aug 9, 2011 14:17:09 GMT -6
Id be willing to give money. I'll buy the chemicals if Texas are short that day ;D I'll go half with you. In fact, I will even pay for his last meal if it would help. I might even cook it for him too....if they asked me nicely ;D. I'm not sure how well I would cook it though - he might find some bits a tad burned here and there. At least he would get an idea of how things will taste in hell once he gets there. It would be cool if they allowed people to "sponsor" an execution like you can sponsor a whale or a kid in Africa. Just donate $86 for the drugs and receive a care package with all the details related to the scum and his execution. You could even have the option of having your name listed on the TDCJ executed offenders webpage as the person who paid for the drugs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 1:15:00 GMT -6
I'll go half with you. In fact, I will even pay for his last meal if it would help. I might even cook it for him too....if they asked me nicely ;D. I'm not sure how well I would cook it though - he might find some bits a tad burned here and there. At least he would get an idea of how things will taste in hell once he gets there. It would be cool if they allowed people to "sponsor" an execution like you can sponsor a whale or a kid in Africa. Just donate $86 for the drugs and receive a care package with all the details related to the scum and his execution. You could even have the option of having your name listed on the TDCJ executed offenders webpage as the person who paid for the drugs. :Dthats some funny shyte..
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Post by Big Al on Aug 10, 2011 16:43:30 GMT -6
It would be cool if they allowed people to "sponsor" an execution like you can sponsor a whale or a kid in Africa. It would really be cool if people didn't murder, people didn't kill whales and children didn't have to starve to death.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 10:31:18 GMT -6
After I had read few posts on this thread, I did some search about Bethena murder, and when looking for info about woods, I suddenly found myself on prisontalk thread about him.
I got so angry by reading posts there, I was on a verge of destroying something. I really, really hate those people on prisontalk. Sick, stupid, clinically retarded f@cks! They deserve and subconsciously desire to be victimized.
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Aug 11, 2011 16:04:20 GMT -6
I'll go half with you. In fact, I will even pay for his last meal if it would help. I might even cook it for him too....if they asked me nicely ;D. I'm not sure how well I would cook it though - he might find some bits a tad burned here and there. At least he would get an idea of how things will taste in hell once he gets there. It would be cool if they allowed people to "sponsor" an execution like you can sponsor a whale or a kid in Africa. Just donate $86 for the drugs and receive a care package with all the details related to the scum and his execution. You could even have the option of having your name listed on the TDCJ executed offenders webpage as the person who paid for the drugs. I'd donate just to spite that idiot Chafee that is trying to stop a federal execution over here.
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Post by gillypod on Aug 26, 2011 9:15:53 GMT -6
Heads up people, PTO are circling the wagons over Woods. They are posting extracts from his website and whatever rubbish his scumpal is posting on Facebook too. They even have Dave Moff screaming his innocence, but then we all know where Dave's real heart lies.
God forgive them all for BLINDLY following this man's view of events rather than checking out facts properly.
At least one of them had the decency to name Ron and Bethena and express some sympathy, rather than try to blame the victims for the crime.
I am a rabid Pro - I admit that - but I do check ALL the facts of a case before my support is behind the MVS and I can assure everyone here that I did exactly that.
Janet - F*** them all. Woods will get his day on the gurney and Bethena and Ron will finally see justice done.
((((HUGS)))) from this forum to you and your family sweetheart - we all love you.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 26, 2011 9:47:10 GMT -6
Ive seen their thread too Gilly and im FUMING. Every exection that comes up the inmate is innocent?!? Bunch of *censored* imbeciles
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Aug 26, 2011 10:01:48 GMT -6
Unfortunately the lies and hair pulling from PTO and others hellbent on making a drama-fest of this will not abate until after the 13th. And, their exaggerations and outright lies do nothing but make them feel better and inflame and hurt the families.
However, and it has been noted here, that Woods is no choir boy. I will give a recitation on some points I gleaned from the paper, specifically after the rejection of his appeal for inadequate defense. Woods’ trial lawyers made a strategic decision to limit their interviews of potential mitigating witnesses because they knew Woods’ fiancee, her family and his stepfather all were willing to testify as prosecution witnesses and tell of his anti-social and sadistic behavior and bad character.
Court records show witnesses under cross-examination, including Woods’ mother, would have had to acknowledge Woods’ involvement in Satanism, bomb-making activities and history of abusive behavior toward animals and his brothers, his affiliation with white supremacists and drug dealing. The appeals court said by not calling relatives to testify for him, Woods’ lawyers were able to avoid extended questioning about his behavior.
The appeals court said Woods’ father refused to testify and told lawyers he always knew his son “would end up in some kind of trouble.” Woods’ mother refused to cooperate with her son’s lawyers who wanted to portray her as a bad mother “because she believed she was a good mother who did the best she could,” the court said.
A trial witness, Michael “Ben” Cavin, said Woods also was involved in the slaying of a Dallas man in the desert near San Bernardino, Calif., two months before the Denton County killings.
So, his own family knows he's a piece of dirt. He is accused in another murder. His fiance would have testified against him.
Anti-social - sadistic - bad character sums it up nicely.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Aug 26, 2011 10:11:40 GMT -6
Janet - I hope that you find peace and support at home and in your community during this very challenging time. You will always have your friends here to stand with you.
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Post by gillypod on Aug 26, 2011 11:57:47 GMT -6
We will go to the mattresses with you Janet, you can be sure of that
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 26, 2011 12:47:22 GMT -6
What a terrible thing to ask of his mother!
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Post by gillypod on Aug 26, 2011 12:49:30 GMT -6
What a terrible thing to ask of his mother! I totally agree Stormy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 12:56:52 GMT -6
Thought I had lost this, but found it looking for something else today. This was the recent photo (at the time of the murders) that was used in the Crimestoppers offer of reward for information on woods' whereabouts in the early months after the murders. Their fair haired boy, one they don't put on the internet themselves. You know we lost count somewhere around 6 or 8 of how many people he told he committed the murders himself - before he was convicted and sentenced. This case has been litigated for 10 years, in minute ad nauseum detail over and over. There is not even any question of his guilt. They are whack! Yesterday I was determined not to look at any of their garbage at the time, and was going back to a place to look again where there had been a blogger posting to never forget the victims of the crime - and found one of them did an impersonation of me in May this year. So that is what I found while looking for some comfort that there are some others who do care about truth and the victims. What a slap in the face Their arrogance, dishonesty, and twisting of the facts is mind boggling. You can't imagine how much I appreciate you all. But you know what else really upsets me about all this, so very much. It's knowing that those who fight probation for their loved ones' murderers end up having to do this over and over and over. I know MVS in the face to face world that there are scumpals who have websites and petitions and forum postings for their loved ones' murderers too - and once parole hearings start, they are facing this every 2 to 5 years or more. My heart just breaks for them. ETA - and one of the things I've cried over so many many times - that THIS was the last face she saw on this earth. just haunts me to this day
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 26, 2011 13:31:42 GMT -6
"and one of the things I've cried over so many many times - that THIS was the last face she saw on this earth. just haunts me to this day" This is what somebody I knew went through said, and it was a huge part of making me aware of just how murder affects its victims families. But know this Janet and all ~ the murdering baztards will be long forgotten after the chemicals are pumped into them and their vile supporters will go on to support the next maggot. Bethena and all loved ones will NEVER be forgotten. Ive already got her candle which I will light in her honour
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 16:12:08 GMT -6
My thoughts will be with you the 13rd too And with Bethena Ron and Beau of course
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Post by greatlakes on Aug 27, 2011 12:10:58 GMT -6
Good bless you & your family J.b.s-I admire your courage & strength-stay strong-this mongrel will soon be wiped from this planet. I'll second this. It must be hard having to deal with the "activists" and their lies. Just remember, what they do isn't about anything but them. I think I posted this earlier, but five minutes after this pig is gone, they will forget about him and move on to some other "cause". They'll forget, because they don't really care. The people here care, and we won't forget. All prayers and respect. Bob
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Post by greatlakes on Aug 27, 2011 12:13:04 GMT -6
Ive seen their thread too Gilly and im FUMING. Every exection that comes up the inmate is innocent?!? Bunch of *censored* imbeciles It's a self esteem boost for people who obviously have very little. I read that site and all I can think is that these people are f*****g phonies.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 28, 2011 12:30:17 GMT -6
Ive seen their thread too Gilly and im FUMING. Every exection that comes up the inmate is innocent?!? Bunch of *censored* imbeciles It's a self esteem boost for people who obviously have very little. I read that site and all I can think is that these people are f*****g phonies. To me the "self-esteem" excuse is just like any other. Considering some of their web-sites defending murderers and condemning victims families I think they are just plain weird, and that is one of the nicer things I can call them.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 28, 2011 13:13:25 GMT -6
It's a self esteem boost for people who obviously have very little. I read that site and all I can think is that these people are f*****g phonies. To me the "self-esteem" excuse is just like any other. Considering some of their web-sites defending murderers and condemning victims families I think they are just plain weird, and that is one of the nicer things I can call them. Scum is what I call them dear Stormy. The Antis here like Felix, Ben, Kay and the recent Dutchy are to my mind sensible people with good arguments. That shower on pto are simply groupies and are about as anti death penalty as I am. I mean 'Save Darlie' sigs? Theyre as mental as the Westboro Baptists carrots. (Moron is carrot in Welsh).
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 29, 2011 15:14:04 GMT -6
If any of those women told me the sky was blue, Id still go out and check. But you know what they say ~ like attracts like. They are all a bunch of idiots who can only get a man when he is stuck behind glass and is unable to touch them. Remember there was a scumpal who married Tex Watson (Manson Follower) and they used to be entitled to conjugal visits and she had 4 kids to him. When California finally toughened up and stopped the visits she divorced him PDQ - how's that for love No more of that good sex with a murderer? (blech)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 4:24:33 GMT -6
Janet. You are an amazing lady. You and your family will be in my thoughts, I sincerly hope this execution brings you some much deserved peace
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 20:04:51 GMT -6
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Post by Big Al on Sept 7, 2011 20:26:08 GMT -6
Doesn't look like there is any way out for him.
I hope when this moment comes you actually can put this to rest. I know that you will never be done mourning Bethena's death but hopefully this can settle affairs.
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Post by kma367 on Sept 7, 2011 20:39:06 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 20:43:27 GMT -6
Thanks KMA for trying! Victims Services let us know this morning he already has another cert. petition filed, and the state will respond by Thursday or Friday. We have seen enough of these through the years to know they won't stop until it's done.
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Post by kma367 on Sept 7, 2011 20:48:52 GMT -6
You're welcome. Who knows, maybe the owner of the site has some integrity and will believe the 5th Circuit opinion, which I posted a link to in my first attempt. I posted the link for the AG advisory in the second.
Did they say whether he filed in the district court, or straight to USSC? I ask because I have a Pacer account and can access the petition if it's in the district court. I don't know whether you want to see that kind of stuff, or not, but I would also certainly be happy to provide you with a copy if you wanted one. I recently saved the original habeas denial that preceded the 5th Circuit opinion.
You and your family are definitely in my thoughts and prayers a lot lately.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 21:03:34 GMT -6
I asked what court this one was filed with, and they answered that it is again with the Court of Criminal Appeals. I had thought they would go to a higher court too, but that is not what they told me. I have gotten copies of everything I could get all through the years. Even some of the submissions made by the defense and the state responses on appeals. Some of them look like books. I only read them once in most cases, but at least I have seen them for myself. PM is okay too You really can't imagine how much all of your support means to us. I don't even know how to express it, so will just again say thank you.
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Post by mike5 on Sept 7, 2011 21:08:34 GMT -6
"On September 1, 2011, Woods filed a second – or successive – application seeking a state writ of habeas corpus from the state district court that adjudged him guilty of murder. On September 2, 2011, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Woods’s successive writ application. The high court also denied Woods’s motion to stay his execution." It went from the TCCA to the USSC and was filed yesterday. www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/11-6194.htmNo. 11-6194 *** CAPITAL CASE *** Title: Steven Michael Woods, Petitioner v. Texas Docketed: September 6, 2011 Linked with 11A258 Lower Ct: Court of Criminal Appeals of Texas Case Nos.: (WR-62,627-02) Decision Date: September 2, 2011 ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sep 6 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due October 6, 2011) Sep 6 2011 Application (11A258) for a stay of execution of sentence of death, submitted to Justice Scalia. [The OAG will probably file a response by tomorrow.]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 21:14:07 GMT -6
"On September 1, 2011, Woods filed a second – or successive – application seeking a state writ of habeas corpus from the state district court that adjudged him guilty of murder. On September 2, 2011, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Woods’s successive writ application. The high court also denied Woods’s motion to stay his execution." It went from the TCCA to the USSC and was filed yesterday. www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/11-6194.htmThanks Mike! That makes more sense that it is with the USSC.
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