Paul
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Post by Paul on Oct 28, 2005 13:34:24 GMT -6
Today I found an ineteresting discussion on ccdap page. it is dedicated to a Brian Steckel´s case. One of the persons who discuss this topic is daughter of the condemned killer Gary Ploof from Delaware DR( he is of course innocent, doesn´t matter,that he killed her mother). I recommend her fellings from interwievs with other DE DR inmates. For me just unbelievable. link : ccadp.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=cases&action=display&thread=1129351560
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Post by Charlene on Oct 28, 2005 13:38:04 GMT -6
I had an email from Steckel's sister in law, who was, for some unknown reason, outraged with what she claims are inaccuracies in the account of the murder on the Scheduled Executions page. Apparently she finds rape, sodomy, sexual mutilation and murder much less outrageous. I suggested that she take it up with the Delaware appellate courts since that is where most of the info came from. It really floors me that people would support a guy like this piece of pond scum. As I told a friend, I guess they just like their fraction of his 15 minutes. Today I found an ineteresting discussion on ccdap page. it is dedicated to a Brian Steckel´s case. One of the persons who discuss this topic is daughter of the condemned killer Gary Ploof from Delaware DR( he is of course innocent, doesn´t matter,that he killed her mother). I recommend her fellings from interwievs with other DE DR inmates. For me just unbelievable. link : ccadp.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=cases&action=display&thread=1129351560
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Post by rain on Oct 28, 2005 14:06:08 GMT -6
Paul - I also read this and followed up with the case to see how she can actually claim he's innocent. I do not believe the victim is this girls mother. Ploof was quite a bit older than the victim when he murdered her. Heidi, the victim, was only 29. The murderer, 43. I believe this daughter is from a previous marriage or affair. Oh btw, they actually have him on camera, leaving the scene of the murder at the local Walmart parking lot. I cannot believe she is actually claiming his innocence. DUH..........
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Post by blakely on Oct 28, 2005 15:32:37 GMT -6
I believe he even tried to negotiate a plea of guilty at one time. I hate how these murderers jerk their own love ones around.
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Post by bryan on Oct 28, 2005 20:47:48 GMT -6
One week from Saturday, convicted killer Brian Steckel will be executed in Delaware. Friday he appeared before the Delaware State Board of Pardons to ask for a last-minute reprieve. Sandra Long’s grieving mother, Virginia Thomas, described her as “a loving person" as she spoke to state pardons board members. She told the board how the young woman was murdered in her Prices Corner apartment in 1994, describing how her daughter was barely alive before Steckel set the fire that killed her. He later wrote Mrs. Thomas saying, "Don't cry over burnt flesh!" Thomas asked the execution go on next Friday saying, "I want to know justice has been done." The victim's sister, Jeanne, said the question is not whether there should be a death penalty, but rather, "what are they waiting for?" Stekel's mother, Marlene Edwards, pleaded for her son’s life during the proceedings. "Drugs and alcohol took him off the deep end,” she said. After he apologized for the murder and writing the viscous letters to the victim's mother, Stekel commented, "If I'm going to die on November fourth, I'm ready." The board members refused to commute his sentence of death, feeling he had not shown that he had changed or expressed full remorse. Looking ahead, state officials are confident the execution will go forward and even if a federal court intervenes, the believe the decision will stand Death penalty opponents are protesting next week's scheduled execution of convicted killer Brian Steckel. The group Delaware Citizens Opposed to the Death Penalty held a rally Thursday on Rodney Square in Wilmington to condemn capital punishment. Wilmington attorney Kevin O'Connell is a spokesman for the group and doesn't believe in the idea of "an eye for an eye." He says society doesn't rape rapists and shouldn't be killing people who have killed. Steckel was convicted in 1996 of raping and murdering Sandra Long in her Prices Corner apartment in 1994. Steckel is scheduled to be executed on November fourth. kyw.com/topstories/local_story_301155023.html
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Post by sweethonesty on Oct 28, 2005 21:43:32 GMT -6
Marked the date on my calendar
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Post by Dave on Oct 28, 2005 22:22:27 GMT -6
I'm surprised he actually had the nerve to ask for his sentance to be commuted after taunting Sandra's mother with those nasty letters. I don't believe for a second that hes sorry for what he did eithier.
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Post by Donnie on Oct 29, 2005 6:53:42 GMT -6
The board members refused to commute his sentence of death, feeling he had not shown that he had changed or expressed full remorse. Perhaps that means he isn't innocent any more. Maybe an exception should be made in Steckel's case and both punishments should be awarded. There are many machines now in service that could do the job nicely. Perhaps with proper adjustments one of the machines could be used to accomplish both beneficial activities. If anyone doubts the dishonesty of anti-DP lawyers O'Connell's comment should erase that adoubt. As a lawyer, he certainly knows that criminals who imprison people are imprisoned and that thieves are fined.
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Post by blakely on Oct 29, 2005 7:08:16 GMT -6
Ploof 's kid posted that she attended his hearing and that she met his 12 year old daughter who he recently came in contact with. First, what kind of woman would have sex and bear a child with that monster? Second, why wd you tell your child who her father was? I wd move away and change my name and tell my daughter he never existed. How do you tell a little girl that her father likes to rape and burn to death pregnant women?
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Post by Kay on Oct 29, 2005 8:17:36 GMT -6
Ploof 's kid posted that she attended his hearing and that she met his 12 year old daughter who he recently came in contact with. First, what kind of woman would have sex and bear a child with that monster? Second, why wd you tell your child who her father was? I wd move away and change my name and tell my daughter he never existed. How do you tell a little girl that her father likes to rape and burn to death pregnant women? I wonder about this too Blakely, I'm not certain what I would do in this position, but my maternal instincts tell me this is wrong. I wondered about this too with the Cartwright case. His websites had pictures of his daughter plastered everywhere. I know she was just a baby when he was sentenced to death. Why let her form a relationship with someone who was condemned to be executed? Seems like it would bring her nothing but heartbreak. I wonder if they have told her the reason she can't visit her father anymore.
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Post by Moonbeam on Oct 29, 2005 8:21:35 GMT -6
Supposedly on reading the Cartwright writings he told her himself though I don't think she was old enough to fully comprehend what she was told.
I think it is so wrong on so many levels, like the prison guard who had Edward Green's baby.
I'm sure a lot of it is for the sympathy element to say, but look this poor child is going to lose their father - terribly sad and cruel for the child to be used in such a way.
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Post by blakely on Oct 29, 2005 8:31:02 GMT -6
Ploof 's kid posted that she attended his hearing and that she met his 12 year old daughter who he recently came in contact with. First, what kind of woman would have sex and bear a child with that monster? Second, why wd you tell your child who her father was? I wd move away and change my name and tell my daughter he never existed. How do you tell a little girl that her father likes to rape and burn to death pregnant women? I wonder about this too Blakely, I'm not certain what I would do in this position, but my materal instincts tell me this is wrong. I wondered about this too with the Cartwright case. His websites had pictures of his daughter plastered everywhere. I know she was just a baby when he was sentenced to death. Why let her form a relationship with someone who was condemned to be executed? Seems like it would bring her nothing but heartbreak. I wonder if they have told her the reason she can't visit her father anymore. At least these woman got pregnat before the fathers were arrested. Carol Bundy got pregant after Ted was in custody for the umpteenth time and he was facing God knows what number murder. How gross. How could she not know he was guilty or think that he was going to be anything but executed? Strangely, and I don't know if this is true, she saw the light and changed her and her daughter's names. I wonder too about the children of the Manson family members who were adopted. Wd you tell your child about their biolgoical parents? I think kids take that too seriously and it would devestate them. These are good arguments against open adoptions. lol! I could see lying my teeth out to protect mychild and then having my child find out and hating me for it. Still, I would take my chances and do everything possible to protect them.
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Post by DeadElvis on Oct 29, 2005 8:53:59 GMT -6
I wonder about this too Blakely, I'm not certain what I would do in this position, but my materal instincts tell me this is wrong. I wondered about this too with the Cartwright case. His websites had pictures of his daughter plastered everywhere. I know she was just a baby when he was sentenced to death. Why let her form a relationship with someone who was condemned to be executed? Seems like it would bring her nothing but heartbreak. I wonder if they have told her the reason she can't visit her father anymore. At least these woman got pregnat before the fathers were arrested. Carol Bundy got pregant after Ted was in custody for the umpteenth time and he was facing God knows what number murder. How gross. How could she not know he was guilty or think that he was going to be anything but executed? Strangely, and I don't know if this is true, she saw the light and changed her and her daughter's names. I wonder too about the children of the Manson family members who were adopted. Wd you tell your child about their biolgoical parents? I think kids take that too seriously and it would devestate them. These are good arguments against open adoptions. lol! I could see lying my teeth out to protect mychild and then having my child find out and hating me for it. Still, I would take my chances and do everything possible to protect them. Wonderful comments, blakely. gave you a +. That is quite a dilema. I am very lucky in that the biological mother of my adopted daughter is someone that I can be completely honest with my daughter about. She has no background horror stories. I know very little about biological father, though. It think it is a benifit to my daughter that I can tell her about her bio. mother as she grows up. I would have the same confict you have, though, if she came from such a troubled background. However, I feel that honestly is usually the best policy in this case. I would fear that the mystery of one's biological roots would do more damage to the child than at least knowing the basic facts. Man, it would be hard if when they were an older teen and asked to visit their bio. parent on DR. yikes!
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Post by blakely on Oct 29, 2005 9:41:45 GMT -6
At least these woman got pregnat before the fathers were arrested. Carol Bundy got pregant after Ted was in custody for the umpteenth time and he was facing God knows what number murder. How gross. How could she not know he was guilty or think that he was going to be anything but executed? Strangely, and I don't know if this is true, she saw the light and changed her and her daughter's names. I wonder too about the children of the Manson family members who were adopted. Wd you tell your child about their biolgoical parents? I think kids take that too seriously and it would devestate them. These are good arguments against open adoptions. lol! I could see lying my teeth out to protect mychild and then having my child find out and hating me for it. Still, I would take my chances and do everything possible to protect them. Wonderful comments, blakely. gave you a +. That is quite a dilema. I am very lucky in that the biological mother of my adopted daughter is someone that I can be completely honest with my daughter about. She has no background horror stories. I know very little about biological father, though. It think it is a benifit to my daughter that I can tell her about her bio. mother as she grows up. I would have the same confict you have, though, if she came from such a troubled background. However, I feel that honestly is usually the best policy in this case. I would fear that the mystery of one's biological roots would do more damage to the child than at least knowing the basic facts. Man, it would be hard if when they were an older teen and asked to visit their bio. parent on DR. yikes! Well, give me an F- for spelling. lol! My keyboard is broken and I'm waiting for a replacemtn. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I remind myself that for every adopted kid that may run into trouble dealing with their history, 99.99% have no problems at all.
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