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Post by fuglyville on Aug 18, 2010 18:05:57 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates?
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Post by whitediamonds on Aug 18, 2010 18:23:29 GMT -6
I do, for all involved especially in Peter Cantu's case, where his brother is what got them turned in.
It must be horrible to know your brother did something so heinous, and have to let the authoritys know. I am sure if the family is not totally dysfunctional it is horrible to know what your own could do or be capable to others and feel shame, guilt, mixed with love of your child also.
To know they will die too, as well as facing the family members who were the victims loved one's must be horrific feelings going on.
So many victims at the end of it all is far reaching I cannot even being to imagine the pain, loss anger, guilt such as the guilt the one lady felt as to not looking or calling the parents to see if made it home ok after the girls left, would haunt her I am sure forever too.
Just stunning including the crime itself any humans could do such horrid acts against another !!! Or so many in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 18:34:32 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? you are really here to try to stir the pot.. I wasn't going to even answer you, hoping you would just go away but now that it has started, I will help it along. You have the wrong slogan. What you should have is "Executed Death Row Inmate survivor". Lets call it like it really is. I hope one lady here knows this is not about her.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 18, 2010 19:03:02 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? I feel bad that the inmate chose to put them through this.
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Post by Big Al on Aug 18, 2010 19:43:34 GMT -6
I would have to say it's a case by case situation.
For some, the crime was so horrible and their own recounts of how they were abused as a child makes me think how much fault it could be of the family.
For others who did their best and got stuck with this situation is really sad. I really do feel sorry for them.
As far as their friends are concerned, well, if you hang around people who murder others than you should somewhere in the back of your mind acknowledge that this might happen. Can't say I feel too sorry for them. Many of them were or are just lucky they didn't get caught or did and got a lesser sentence.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 18, 2010 19:57:39 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? I'm interested in your thought for the murdered victims family or better yet the murdered victims.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 18, 2010 20:00:10 GMT -6
BTW this topic is in the wrong section. It should be on the main board. This section is for specific cases.
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Post by Californian on Aug 18, 2010 20:15:39 GMT -6
I'm interested in your thought for the murdered victims family or better yet the murdered victims. Well said, and agree.
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Post by Big Al on Aug 18, 2010 20:17:42 GMT -6
This sounds like it could be an anti poster of the past. One with religious connotations.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 20:18:01 GMT -6
It's horrific that the murderer put them in this situation. The murderer hurts his own family and friends. Some even feel guilt that they could not change the murderer's path. Some who felt that way left messages on my daughter's guest book, they felt shame that their cousin/friend could do such a thing - even though it was completely his doing, none of their fault in truth. There is whole another kind and depth of pain for those where the victim was also a family member, their own relative murdered their own relative. The murderer hurts the victims family and friends. The murderer hurts everyone touched by his/her horrific crime.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 20:37:43 GMT -6
It's horrific that the murderer put them in this situation. The murderer hurts his own family and friends. Some even feel guilt that they could not change the murderer's path. Some who felt that way left messages on my daughter's guest book, they felt shame that their cousin/friend could do such a thing - even though it was completely his doing, none of their fault in truth. There is whole another kind and depth of pain for those where the victim was also a family member, their own relative murdered their own relative. The murderer hurts the victims family and friends. The murderer hurts everyone touched by his/her horrific crime. Well said JBS. A lot better than me but I do have fun. I just thought that he would know how the murderer hurt everyone involved since he is an MVS. Trying to figure out why he just wouldn't realize these things.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 20:49:23 GMT -6
It's horrific that the murderer put them in this situation. The murderer hurts his own family and friends. Some even feel guilt that they could not change the murderer's path. Some who felt that way left messages on my daughter's guest book, they felt shame that their cousin/friend could do such a thing - even though it was completely his doing, none of their fault in truth. There is whole another kind and depth of pain for those where the victim was also a family member, their own relative murdered their own relative. The murderer hurts the victims family and friends. The murderer hurts everyone touched by his/her horrific crime. Well said JBS. A lot better than me but I do have fun. I just thought that he would know how the murderer hurt everyone involved since he is an MVS. Trying to figure out why he just wouldn't realize these things. Perhaps we can help him find his fugly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 21:06:07 GMT -6
On a more serious note,
yes we have thought about it.
There have been many posters here over the years who were part of the murderer's family - some were anti and some were pro. If you look back through some older archives you'll find it's been considered long and in depth, fuglyville.
Some I consider to be wonderful friends. They didn't do it - their relative did something that they too wish had never ever happened, just like we do.
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Post by reapwysow on Aug 18, 2010 23:06:47 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? Yes I have thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed scumbags. If they are pro they are more then welcome to a chili dog. If they are anti , they can buy one. 3 million dollars each. Want to buy a chili dog?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 19, 2010 2:04:05 GMT -6
2 friends of mine, their brother is a murderer but this wicked crime is not on them, they have cut him out of their lives. And the MVS (who are also friends) know this too.Its not the best of situations, when you consider the murderer is now free and living within 4 streets of the MVS but his family are a good one (apart ffrom him) and nobody in the village blames them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2010 2:35:49 GMT -6
I can't hold the family responsible for the murderer's actions unless they helped him/her afterwards, or try to make excuses for the murderer. I feel sorry for them and the knowledge that they will have to live with from that point on. I have no idea how I would cope with it were I in their position. I do know I wouldn't help the murderer get away, no matter the relationship.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 19, 2010 9:53:14 GMT -6
On a more serious note, yes we have thought about it. There have been many posters here over the years who were part of the murderer's family - some were anti and some were pro. If you look back through some older archives you'll find it's been considered long and in depth, fuglyville. Some I consider to be wonderful friends. They didn't do it - their relative did something that they too wish had never ever happened, just like we do. Not all family members try to save the inmate, as I think some believe.
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Post by D.E.E. on Aug 19, 2010 16:02:28 GMT -6
Well I am sorrry for all the victims. The murderer leaves a wake fo destruction in his path and often their own family is harmed by their actions. I am sorry for them, however some families are as criminal in their thinking and actions as the criminal, for those sorry about your luck and adios.
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Post by whitediamonds on Aug 19, 2010 17:41:07 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? I'm interested in your thought for the murdered victims family or better yet the murdered victims. Ditto !! Me too.
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Post by Stormyweather on Aug 20, 2010 13:11:11 GMT -6
Well I am sorrry for all the victims. The murderer leaves a wake fo destruction in his path and often their own family is harmed by their actions. I am sorry for them, however some families are as criminal in their thinking and actions as the criminal, for those sorry about your luck and adios. Another good point.
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Post by Lauren on Aug 20, 2010 13:40:21 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? Murderers ruin multiple lives. It's tragic. But what I don't understand is why you posed a question like it's our fault a murderer received the DP?
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Post by john - uk on Aug 21, 2010 5:12:38 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? I make a clear distinction between those who have a genuine, established relationship with the inmate, such as brother, father son etc and the death row groupies who only got involved with the inmate once they're in prison. I have sympathy for the first group and have come to like and respect some of the members that have been on this board, as has already been said they're not responsible for the actions of their loved one. As for the latter group, they choose to get involved with the inmate, they know what they were getting into, so no I don't have any sympathy for them.
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Post by Lady on Aug 22, 2010 22:48:02 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? Since you asked the question , I am curious what your answer to this question is ......what are your thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates ?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 23, 2010 13:18:44 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! Bit harsh. Everyone knows I have no sympathy for the condemned but sending their families to hell too? While I agree some families are as rotten as the criminal others are not. The friends I spoke of (brother & sister of a killer) are fine upstanding people with good careers and law abiding, as are their parents. What would I be sending them to hell for?
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Post by Lady on Aug 23, 2010 16:23:39 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! What I have ever done to warrant going to hell ? I am a law abiding citizen who just happens to be related to a DR inmate . Unfortunately for me , I can't change who I am related too , so I guess when he is executed I am to "GO STRAIGHT TO HELL ,DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT A WATER BOTTLE ALONG THE WAY " . I find your comment offensive on so many levels .
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Post by josephdphillips on Aug 23, 2010 16:35:22 GMT -6
Just out of interest - do you have any thoughts for the friends and relatives of executed inmates? I believe their thoughts aren't relevant to public policy.
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Post by Lauren on Aug 23, 2010 16:49:36 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! Um...why? An inmates family never hurt anyone. In retrospect, an inmates family is another victim to the inmate's crime committed.
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Post by Kay on Aug 23, 2010 17:50:48 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! Um...why? An inmates family never hurt anyone. In retrospect, an inmates family is another victim to the inmate's crime committed. Exactly Lauren, and Lady sure doesn't deserve such harsh words
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Post by Felix2 on Aug 24, 2010 2:54:01 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! Problem with that kind of take on it is that you tar others with the same brush, when it comes to the act of murder, usually just one person and one person alone bears responsibility, the murderer. I cannot see why you express anger towards their relatives, particularly where they have had no hand, act or part in thier family members crime.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Aug 24, 2010 4:20:10 GMT -6
Well, I must say I've got ZERO empathy for death row inmates survivors. Indeed, they can go to hell as their eliminated dear one shyte! Well, I must say I have ZERO empathy for braindead idiot survivors. Indeed, your relatives can go to hell.
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