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|  | Judge Sharon Keller « Thread Started on Aug 13, 2009, 8:57am » | |
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A Texas Judge on Trial: Closed to a Death-Row Appeal?
Soft-spoken and a devout Christian, Judge Sharon Keller presides as chief justice of Texas' highest criminal court. She's also known as "Sharon Killer" by her opponents, who are going to see her in court next week on charges of judicial misconduct. They charge that Keller refused a condemned man a last-minute appeal in 2007 and now she faces a trial in a San Antonio courtroom that could lead to her removal and will certainly focus wide attention on Texas' enthusiasm for the death penalty.
Keller finds herself at this pass because of a four-word sentence she uttered on September 25, 2007: "We close at five." According to a newspaper interview with Keller in October 2007 and pretrial testimony last year, she said those words to Ed Marty, general counsel for the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals (CCA). As the court's logistics officer, Marty had called the judge at the behest of lawyers for Michael Richard, 49, who had been on Death Row for two decades and whose execution was scheduled for that evening. The lawyers were allegedly having computer trouble and problems getting last-minute paperwork to the Austin court. Keller was reportedly at her home dealing with a repairman that afternoon when she she got the request - and made her reply. Richard's lawyers failed to meet the deadline, and at 8:23 p.m. Richard was declared dead following a lethal injection. (Read a brief history of lethal injection.)
An outcry followed. "This execution proceeded because the highest criminal court couldn't be bothered to stay an extra 20 minutes on the night of an execution," Andrea Keilen, executive director of Texas Defender Service told ABC News in 2007. Not only did Texas defense attorneys quickly file complaints with the state's judicial oversight commission, in an unprecedented move the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers joined the filing. Newspapers across the state and nation weighed in with scathing editorials and anti-death penalty campaigns went on the attack. The Texas Moratorium Network set up www.sharonkiller.com.
A year and a half later, in February, Keller was charged by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct with "willfill and persistent" failure to follow the CCA's protocols for last-minute appeals and for bringing public discredit on the court. Opponents say her actions displayed a dogmatic affinity for the death penalty. But her supporters, some of whom do not share her conservative views, contend she was following the rules and was not responsible for the shortcomings of defense attorneys. They also point to Keller's work doubling the number of public defenders' offices in Texas and boosting their budget from $19 million to $60 million. (Read about the debate over the death penalty.)
A special master - a judge named by the state supreme court for the occasion - has been appointed to preside over the fact-finding trial. San Antonio District Judge David Berchelman Jr., a former member of the CCA, can either recommend to the commission that the charges be dismissed, or that Judge Keller be reprimanded or even removed from office by the state supreme court.
Though she handily won her elections to the bench, Keller exhibited little interest in politics during college, friends say. The bright daughter of a Dallas entrepreneur and famed restauranteur "Cactus" Jack Keller, she excelled in school and studied philosophy at Rice then law at Southern Methodist University. But 1994, while working as an appellate attorney in the Dallas prosecutor's office, she ran for a spot on the CCA and, thanks to a Republican landslide on the coattails of George W. Bush, won her seat. In her second term she ran successfully for the top slot, the court's presiding judge. Keller has consistently been part of the court's conservative voting bloc and has said she saw her election as an opportunity to balance the high court after several decades of domination by judges inclined toward the defense bar. (However, there has always been a high degree of support for the death penalty even among Democratic judges in Texas.)
The genteel-looking Keller is expected to put up a fight, even though, so far, she has been silent on the upcoming trial. In a written response to the charges, she derided the defense attorney's claims that computer trouble delayed their paperwork: "It did not take a computer to prepare and timely file...it could have been hand written and the court would have accepted it as Judge Keller informed the Commission."
She will also defend herself by discussing the man she is accused of wronging: the executed Michael Richard. Richard has a long legal history and a criminal record that evokes little sympathy. "By the time he was executed," Keller wrote in her response to the charges, "Richard had two trials, two direct appeals (including to the United States Supreme Court), two state habeas corpus proceedings and three federal habeas corpus hearings or motions." She added that the charge against her that Richard was not accorded access to open courts or the right to be heard "is patently without merit."
In 1986, two months after being released from his second prison term, Richard killed Marguerite Lucille Dixon, 53, a nurse and mother of seven. Dixon had invited him in for a cold glass of water after Richard had knocked on her front door and asked if her van was for sale. Two of her children found her. She had been sexually assaulted, then killed and her van and television stolen. A year later, Richard was on death row. After confessing, Richard claimed he was innocent, but his appeals centered on a history of alleged family abuse and his supposed IQ of 64. He told reporters he had learned to read and write on Death Row.
But the handling of Richard's appeals process is what is being contested by Keller's opponents. Richard won a new trial from the CCA because the alleged abuse he had suffered at the hands of his father had not been considered in his first trial, according to the appellate record. But Richard was convicted again in 1995 and once again given the death penalty, even after his mother and sister were allowed to testify about the alleged abuse during the punishment phase of the trial. Following a U.S. Supreme Court ruling prohibiting the execution of mentally retarded prisoners, his lawyers appealed for another trial based on his alleged IQ level. The CCA turned him down and that appeal was ongoing when the Supreme Court suddenly opened a new avenue for appeal on the day Richard was scheduled to die.
The high court announced it had agreed to hear arguments in Baze v Rees, on whether Kentucky's use of lethal injections (the same method Texas uses) violated constitutional proscriptions against cruel and unusual punishment. Richard's attorneys with the Texas Defender Service hoped to use the Baze case to win a delay, but they would have to go through the CCA in Austin first before approaching the Supreme Court for a stay and, as the execution was looming, they would have to act very quickly. Frantically trying to assemble their paperwork - the CCA did not permit e-mail filings, but now does - lawyers in Houston and Austin conferred over the phone, back and forth. They claimed they were further slowed by computer failures, an issue on which experts on both sides are expected to testify.
One issue is whether Keller was emphatically rejecting any pleadings to the court, or simply noting that the clerk's office closed at 5 p.m., as required by state law. Keller's attorneys will most likely argue the latter, saying that everyone knows that Texas appellate law provided for after-hours filings directly to judges. Friends said Keller was bewildered by the fallout. In the days just after the event, she told the Austin American-Statesman that she was not given a reason why the attorneys wanted the clerk's office to stay open. "They did not tell us they had computer failure and given the late request, and with no reason given, I just said, 'We close at five.' I didn't really think of it as a decision as much as a statement," the newspaper quoted Keller as saying.
Keller has turned to noted defense attorney Charles "Chip" Babcock - he represented Oprah Winfrey in 1998 when the talk show host was unsuccessfully sued for slander by Texas cattlemen. Babcock told the Austin American-Statesman he will question the "myth" of the computer problem and the last-minute actions of Richard's appellate lawyers. "I think our version is going to be that they just didn't do their job that day," Babcock said. It is a tactic that Neal Manne, representing the Texas Defenders Service, rejects as a "sideshow" designed to deflect from the real issue - Judge Keller's actions that afternoon.
One sobering what-if: even if Richard had gotten his appeal accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court, he would most likely have extended his life by only eight months. The high court eventually upheld the constitutionality of Kentucky's use of lethal injections. ----------------------------
I am not certain about the allegations of computer problems. I would think that they would be smart enough to have more than one PC or laptop to work from. I call nonsense.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #1 on Aug 13, 2009, 9:28am » | |
Aug 13, 2009, 8:57am, Elric of Melnibone wrote:| I am not certain about the allegations of computer problems. I would think that they would be smart enough to have more than one PC or laptop to work from. I call nonsense. |
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And you would be right. Plus, the story keeps changing: computer problem, printer problem, xerox problem.
Also, they should have known that the USSC was going to grant cert on the day or near the day of the execution and they should have briefed it in advance. In fact, all they had to do is add a couple of sentences to their current brief about how Baze was pending before the court or Baze had been granted cert. That's all it would have taken.
This is just a big coverup to protect David Dow and the TDS. On another forum, one of the commenters, who shall go nameless, who is a heavy hitter in the Texas H.C. world confirmed that Dow and company are screwups.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #2 on Aug 13, 2009, 9:46am » | |
It boggles the mind how computer problems could be at issue. It makes no sense. First, it would have not taken much effort to write the brief, as it would only take a few sentences as Mike pointed out above. Second, you would think that they would have more than one computer and that the information would be saved to a disk. When I type something important, I save it to my hard drive, my flash drive, and then I email the document to myself so I can access it from almost any computer if need be. Hell, they could have went to the public library and printed it off. The article says they could have even written it by hand. I support Killer Keller here 100%.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #3 on Aug 13, 2009, 12:21pm » | |
Please find below the news report on this execution, published the following day in either the Houston Chronicle or Dallas Morning News. A U.S. Supreme Court decision to review whether lethal injection procedures are unconstitutionally cruel failed to stop the execution of a Texas man as the high court allowed his punishment to be carried out. Michael Richard, 49, was put to death Tuesday evening by Texas corrections officials with a toxic combination of drugs that justices hours earlier decided they would examine after a challenge from two condemned inmates in Kentucky. Lawyers for Richard had gone to the court asking the lethal injection in Texas be halted and cited the Kentucky case in their appeal. The justices, however, rejected the appeal. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott's office had challenged Richard's appeals while Gov. Rick Perry's office insisted the execution — the 26th this year in Texas, by far the highest number in the nation among states with the death penalty — would go forward as planned. About two hours after he was scheduled to die, Richard was taken to the Texas death chamber. In a brief final statement, he asked that his family take care of themselves and expressed love to a friend. "Let's ride," he said just before the drugs began flowing. After several seconds and as the lethal concoction began taking effect, he added: "I guess this is it." Nine minutes later he was pronounced dead. Richard, a twice-imprisoned burglar, was condemned for the attack, rape and robbery of Marguerite Lucille Dixon, 53, at her home in Hockley in far northwest Harris County in 1986. Richard had at least five felony convictions and had been released from his second prison term just eight weeks before the slaying. "If he made peace with himself and got over this issue, that's all that matters to me," Stephen Dixon, whose mother was murdered, said after watching Richard die. "I had forgiven him for my own sake. I had to." Dixon, a mother of seven who worked as a nurse, had offered Richard a drink of water after he came up to her house and inquired whether a van parked outside was for sale. The vehicle wasn't and Richard left, noticing that two of Dixon's children who were home at the time left shortly after he did. Evidence showed he returned, raped the woman, fatally shot her, then stole two televisions and drove off in the van. Richard acknowledged being at Dixon's home, accounting for his fingerprint on a sliding glass door. But he insisted he wasn't responsible for the woman's death. "I went by that house, true enough, asked to buy a car, and I left," he said last week from death row. The van was found abandoned in Houston, about 30 miles to the southeast, and Richard later took officers to where he gave the .25-caliber pistol used in Dixon's death to a friend. Evidence showed he swapped the TVs for some cocaine. Richard's lawyers initially argued he was mentally retarded and not eligible for lethal injection under a U.S. Supreme Court order barring execution of mentally retarded people. The justices turned down that appeal about 6 p.m., the hour when the execution could have taken place, then returned to his case to deal with the lethal injection claim. Two of Dixon's children found the house dark and ransacked, then found their mother's body. A fingerprint on the glass door led police to Richard, who confessed the shooting was an accident. From prison, he said the confession wasn't his. "Either the sentence needs to be carried out or not carried out," said Lee Coffee, who prosecuted Richard in 1987 and is now a judge in Memphis, Tenn. "I don't think it's fair to anyone — the defendant, the victim, family members, the justice system. "The impression overall the public has of the criminal justice system is it's inefficient and woefully and painfully slow." Richard was convicted and sentenced to death in 1987. The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals threw out his conviction in 1992 because jurors improperly were not allowed to consider evidence that as a child Richard had been abused. In 1995, a second jury convicted him again and again sentenced him to die. "I've been here forever," Richard said last week from death row, where he was known as "Louisiana Red." "I just try to live for every day. Everybody's going to die. I just know the date." The date was Tuesday. Richard first went to prison in 1978 with a six-year term for burglary. He was paroled about three years later, then returned to prison in 1985 with a five-year sentence for theft and forgery. He was released on mandatory supervision after 17 months. Dixon's slaying occurred eight weeks later. END
The good judge Sharon enjoys my full support for doing her duty and upholding the laws of Texas.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #4 on Aug 13, 2009, 3:58pm » | |
Get better lawyers next time, sucker. 
Oh, WAIT-there won't BE a "next time."
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #5 on Aug 14, 2009, 10:47am » | |
I seriously don't see how they even have a case against Keller. She clearly made it clear that her hours were until a certain time. If you think about it, the defense lawyers had, if they started working at 9am, about 8 or more so hours to give the appeal to the judge. It's careless work on the defense part.
Since the defense lawyers went to school, they know full well what happens when they don't reach a deadline. They fricked over their client, and now they want to sue. That's what you get when you leave something to the last minute, or don't work fast enough.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #6 on Aug 14, 2009, 10:51am » | |
Does anyone know what time of day it was when the SCOTUS announced that it would hear Baze v Rees?
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #7 on Aug 14, 2009, 11:03am » | |
When the court's public information office opens for business - I think 8 or 9 a.m. EDT. One of the attys complained about the time difference because he is in SF and he also admitted he came in late that day.
But, it doesn't matter. They knew that Baze was going to be granted cert because there were conflicting decisions in the federal courts. They knew when the court held conference on 9/24, that it was going to be granted within a day or two. They granted it on 9/25. They should have been prepared and they weren't.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #8 on Aug 18, 2009, 12:27pm » | |
Somebody forgets or even ignores that this judge refused to overturn a rape verdict even when DNA exonerated the defendant. "The defendant could have failed to eiaculate and the girl could have had sex with someone else beside him"  If I were a dp supporter this woman would be definitely my hero (also becouse i find her a "hot judge" )
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #9 on Aug 18, 2009, 4:39pm » | |
Whether or not there were computer problems, where does one draw the line at exceptions? 5 is when the office closes. His legal team should have known. He should not have killed.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #10 on Aug 18, 2009, 4:49pm » | |
Aug 18, 2009, 12:27pm, belsogno wrote:Somebody forgets or even ignores that this judge refused to overturn a rape verdict even when DNA exonerated the defendant. "The defendant could have failed to eiaculate and the girl could have had sex with someone else beside him" |
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And you forgot, ignored, or probably never read the decision where it states the defendant had gone around bragging that he raped and murdered the victim.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #11 on Aug 18, 2009, 8:56pm » | |
Had she closed the court early, then, yes, there might be an issue. However, she closed at the normal time. We can assume that the attorney has filed briefs in the court before and fully knew of the closing time. I agree with Mike in that the lawyer had plenty of time. Yet we hear nothing about the attorney. I consider this nothing more than a political smear campaign.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #12 on Aug 18, 2009, 10:55pm » | |
There is just no room for this when dealing with DP cases.
Granted, I am a pretty hard core DP supporter and I couldn't care less about this event or this "very guilty beyond a doubt guy" but I just hate to see the anti crowd whine over things like this so, therefore, it should just be avoided at all costs.
It would have been little effort for her to stay open another hour to appease these idiot lawyers and give this POS another useless stay or whatever.
He would have gotten his eventually and until the laws actually reduce the silly appeals then they are in place and we should follow every law etc...... until they are done with and get the needle.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #13 on Aug 18, 2009, 11:21pm » | |
I think the defense honestly dropped the ball and failed to call the courthouse.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #14 on Aug 19, 2009, 12:17am » | |
Aug 18, 2009, 11:21pm, Elric of Melnibone wrote:| I think the defense honestly dropped the ball and failed to call the courthouse. |
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Yes, they certainly did. But I think in this case the prosecution should have tapped the ball in their direction and let them continue playing.
It has caused an unnecessary uproar. Why give these people fodder for their little flame?
Now had they shown up a week late I would totally agree. But a few minutes????
I think it just shines a bad light on DP supporters. Even though it is "by the book" or whatever, we should just say, "OK fine. Do it your way. He will get it anyways and you will see that."
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #15 on Aug 19, 2009, 7:05am » | |
Judge Keller: No one did anything wrong
By CRAIG KAPITAN San Antonio Express-News Aug. 18, 2009, 10:25PM SAN ANTONIO — Texas Court of Criminal Appeals Judge Sharon Keller on Tuesday disagreed with prosecutors about her perception of a phone call two years ago that preceded the execution of death row inmate Michael Richard.
“I just don't think anybody did anything wrong,” said Keller, the state's highest-ranking criminal judge, at her ethics hearing.
Keller faces possible removal from office after being charged with five counts of judicial misconduct, including the failure to follow the appellate court's execution-day protocol when she didn't notify fellow Judge Cheryl Johnson of the Sept. 25, 2007, request to accept a late appeal. Johnson testified earlier she was at the court after hours, waiting for the expected last-minute appeal.
“You knew someone had called about that scheduled execution and at minimum (that they) were not ready to file?” asked special prosecutor Mike McKetta, to which Keller responded, “Yes.”
Keller recalled the court's general counsel Ed Marty saying that night, “They wanted to file something, but they were not ready.”
She responded, telling Marty to advise Richard's attorneys that the clerk's office closes at 5 p.m. Richard, convicted in the April 1996 rape and shooting death of a Hockley nurse, was executed three hours later.
During her hourlong testimony Tuesday, Keller said she didn't believe she was making a decision regarding the court accepting an appeal, but an administrative one about the clerk's office hours.
“I think it was not a substantive matter,” she said, “but I can see why other people think it was.”
Prosecutors are expected to continue questioning the judge this morning. Prosecutors will likely rest their case by the end of the day, and it is possible the defense will as well, attorneys indicated Tuesday.
Richard's sister, Betty, who traveled from Houston to watch the proceedings, choked back tears during a break in Keller's testimony Tuesday.
“She knows it was wrong,” she said. “My brother was not an animal. He was a loved human being.”
‘You didn't ask' Keller's testimony came after a long and sometimes bruising exchange earlier in the day between Richard's appellate lawyer and her attorney.
David Dow, a law professor and litigation director for the nonprofit Texas Defender Services, occasionally raised his voice as he fielded questions from defense attorney Chip Babcock that suggested Dow spun false allegations to the media and lied about computer problems the day he was trying to file a last-minute appeal for Richard.
Babcock said Dow should have known to call Johnson or to call the court's general counsel that day after his paralegal was told the clerk's office closes at 5.
“You weren't denied (the appeal),” Babcock said. “You didn't ask.”
Keller later said, “I would have thought a good part of (the execution-day procedure) was known to defense attorneys who practiced in our court.”
Dow said he wasn't aware at the time that he could call others. He assumed after talking to his paralegal no other options were available.
“It's reasonable for me to believe the clerk's office is the court,” Dow said. “I don't draw a distinction between the clerk's office and the court the way you do.”
Both agreed there could have been some confusion that day as a result of the chain of communication. Dow was giving orders to another attorney in his office, who was in turn talking to a paralegal in Austin, who called the court clerk, who called the general counsel, who called Judge Keller.
A pointed question Babcock, whose previous high-profile clients include Oprah Winfrey and the Chicago Tribune, occasionally glanced into the audience as he offered his questions Tuesday. Keller sat at the defense table, occasionally taking notes.
“Do you think Judge Keller should be removed from office because you didn't think about (calling others) that day?” Babcock asked.
Dow gathered his thoughts for a moment before responding.
“I don't have an opinion on whether Judge Keller should be removed from office,” he said.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #16 on Aug 19, 2009, 8:01am » | |
Nah, Al. No freebies. The game was afoot and no need to to punt.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #17 on Aug 19, 2009, 8:49am » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 12:17am, Big Al wrote: Aug 18, 2009, 11:21pm, Elric of Melnibone wrote:| I think the defense honestly dropped the ball and failed to call the courthouse. |
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Yes, they certainly did. But I think in this case the prosecution should have tapped the ball in their direction and let them continue playing.
It has caused an unnecessary uproar. Why give these people fodder for their little flame?
Now had they shown up a week late I would totally agree. But a few minutes????
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There were many things the defense could have done to stay the execution that night. Is the court or the prosecution suppose to take the case over for them and file the defendant's briefs and writs? They really aren't suppose to give legal advice.
The easiest way to stay the execution would have been to file a simple writ, no longer than a couple of pages, in the trial court, asking for a stay of execution. Remember, that's what they did in Hood's case at the very last minute.
Why didn't Dow file a writ? And why is it everybody else's fault but not his?
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #18 on Aug 19, 2009, 8:52am » | |
Both agreed there could have been some confusion that day as a result of the chain of communication. Dow was giving orders to another attorney in his office, who was in turn talking to a paralegal in Austin, who called the court clerk, who called the general counsel, who called Judge Keller.
How seriously did TDS take this case if neither of the two attorneys could get off their ass and call the court themselves??
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #19 on Aug 19, 2009, 9:37am » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 12:17am, Big Al wrote:| Now had they shown up a week late I would totally agree. But a few minutes???? |
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Not a few minutes -- more like over an hour.
According to the testimony, they didn't have their briefs completed and ready to file until 5:56 pm. Add to that the time it would take to drive over to the courthouse.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #20 on Aug 19, 2009, 11:57am » | |
Let me hear again from y'all that DR prisoners get good legal representation.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #21 on Aug 19, 2009, 12:08pm » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 11:57am, Brumsongs wrote:| Let me hear again from y'all that DR prisoners get good legal representation. |
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According to your side they do. Criticizing Dow is blasphemy.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #22 on Aug 19, 2009, 1:26pm » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 12:08pm, mike5 wrote: Aug 19, 2009, 11:57am, Brumsongs wrote:| Let me hear again from y'all that DR prisoners get good legal representation. |
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According to your side they do. Criticizing Dow is blasphemy. |
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a) You don't know what "my side" is in any detail. b) You wouldn't understand it if you did. c) The universal contempt you seem to inspire dictates that you don't have a "side" thus rendering your oppositional argument meaningless. d) I have been complaining about lack of decent representation for DP defendants/prisoners for years and to the point of tedium.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #23 on Aug 19, 2009, 1:28pm » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 11:57am, Brumsongs wrote:| Let me hear again from y'all that DR prisoners get good legal representation. |
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Richards got his representation at his initial trial. He had representation that was thorough. It just wasn't good enough to overturn the prosecution's case.
Richards was a scumbag; and his appeal was without merit.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #24 on Aug 19, 2009, 1:48pm » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 1:26pm, Brumsongs wrote: Aug 19, 2009, 12:08pm, mike5 wrote:
According to your side they do. Criticizing Dow is blasphemy. |
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a) You don't know what "my side" is in any detail. b) You wouldn't understand it if you did. c) The universal contempt you seem to inspire dictates that you don't have a "side" thus rendering your oppositional argument meaningless. d) I have been complaining about lack of decent representation for DP defendants/prisoners for years and to the point of tedium.
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1. You as in the abolish movement in Texas. I don't give a damn about your position, whether in overview or detail. 2. You're pretty simple minded, so you're simple to understand. 3. Oh, I have a side, alright. That it continually causes your panties to wad is pretty funny. 4. Who gives a *crap*? It's not always about you. The comment was about Dow and how everybody is covering for him.
Grab your binky and go take a nap. 
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Thank you, Mikey. You're a true source of inspiration, really. Since you came here I think much more about the question what the definition of human life is. I think I can already define it negatively.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #26 on Aug 19, 2009, 3:46pm » | |
Aug 19, 2009, 1:28pm, theanimal wrote: Aug 19, 2009, 11:57am, Brumsongs wrote:| Let me hear again from y'all that DR prisoners get good legal representation. |
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Richards got his representation at his initial trial. He had representation that was thorough. It just wasn't good enough to overturn the prosecution's case.
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So it's good enough that his lawyers didn't know when the court closed? And stop laughing so much people will think you're a bit special.
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|  | Re: Judge Sharon Keller « Reply #27 on Aug 19, 2009, 3:55pm » | |
The lawyers should be saying "Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima F*NG culpa." instead of throwing the blame around.
No, Brumsongs, I'm laughing at YOUR "il"-logic.
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Aug 19, 2009, 3:20pm, honeyroastedpeanut wrote:Thank you, Mikey. You're a true source of inspiration, really. Since you came here I think much more about the question what the definition of human life is. I think I can already define it negatively.  |
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And when I think of you I think, nazism - it's genetic.
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Aug 19, 2009, 4:14pm, mike5 wrote: Aug 19, 2009, 3:20pm, honeyroastedpeanut wrote:Thank you, Mikey. You're a true source of inspiration, really. Since you came here I think much more about the question what the definition of human life is. I think I can already define it negatively.  |
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And when I think of you I think, nazism - it's genetic.  |
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I'm sorry that you feel your thought processes have been impaired by a genetic defect, I'll be nicer to you from now on. I'm inspired by your struggle.
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